Galatasaray 1-1 Beşiktaş | Derby Drama! Tammy Scores but 10-Man Gala Hold On | #362
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Black Eagles podcast. It’s October 5th, 2025, and Beşiktaş have just finished out their uh their
schedule for the international break. Of course, we had the big derby away at Galatasaray uh
yesterday on Saturday and uh it finished 1-1, one all. Um, but I think Beşiktaş fans in particular
will be left with a feeling of h should have got more out of that game. Um, and that’s what we’re
here to talk about, of course. Let us know in the comments what you thought of the match, how you
saw it, uh, what you would have wanted Seergen to do differently perhaps. Uh, let’s talk about it. But
I’m here joined by my co-host from New York City in the United States, Mr. Sinan Schwarting
returning to the podcast after missing the last two episodes. Um, yeah. Um, for anyone who missed
me, I I did drop that Schwarting report. I made it a rare public release. Um, but yeah, just to say
hi to everyone. Uh, check in, see how everyone was doing. Um, I missed you all. Yeah, it was
it was uh it was it was time that I like what do they say? Absence makes the heart grow fonder,
right? So, yeah, I missed everyone. Uh, that said, yeah, I’ll keep my comments on the match short
before I hand it over to our other co-host. Uh, I will simply say that had we gone into yesterday
and you told me we were going to draw that match, I would have signed up for that. I think uh
right, that would have even seemed difficult given their form. It’s a positive that we’re
on the road. On paper, it’s a positive result, especially given the fact how our previous away
games barred the Kaiyserispor one has have gone. I mean, two losses, Alanyaspor 2-0, 3-0 away
at Göztepe. So, I mean, going into this game, I think then you’re like, okay, you’re going
to come away with a 1-1 draw. You’d probably be all like, ah, so it’s acceptable. But, uh, I’d
take that. But, yeah, but given how it happened, and obviously we’re going to dig into that. Uh
yeah, I found myself like almost heartbroken. Like I I found myself walking around with a heavy heart
yesterday. And you know, it’s funny like Yeah, it it’s just funny. You know, sometimes a draw
can be great. Sometimes you can leave a draw feeling like you’ve you’ve you’ve basically won
and sometimes you can leave a draw feeling like you you’ve come away with a negative result. I
think that’s probably how the Galatasaray fans and team feel after that game playing the majority of you
know playing for like an hour plus with with 10 men. I think to and to come from being down a goal
and and really if you look at the game like they didn’t create much at all. I think if you look at
the if you look at the highlights uh if you would just if you wouldn’t have seen the match and you
would just look at the highlights then you’d be like oh gods got lucky there but I do think if
you watch the game in full I mean I have to be honest I think deserved a point I didn’t think we
deserve to win it but if one team would have could have won it would have been Beşiktaş for sure how
did you come away from Oh by the way Kartal from Glasgow Scotland everyone He’s returning knock New
York. How did you come away from this game, Katal? I mean are you of the same mindset as Sinan where
you’re like yeah I mean going into the game I take a draw but now coming out of it it’s like you know
yeah obviously look I’m a clash fan and I think every clash fan should want to win every game but
of course yeah going into it if you said would you take a draw I’d probably take it considering the
recent record and the Saman’s not been great in the last last time we beat them in that stadium
was eight and a half years ago and in that time frame We’ve only drawn once and lost the rest of
the games in that in that stadium. There’s a lot of chicainery going into those games. We have to
admit like last season was a was a proper screw job by the referee. I Yeah, I mean I mean probably
about half of them are screw jobs, man. They are. Yeah. I mean and and the you know the audacity of
of some Gry fans online right now of of of acting like they got done in by the ref. Like I think
they were [ __ ] looking back at it lucky to finish with 10 men. They could have finished with
with nine. They could have finished with eight. Uh it wasn’t a particularly dirty game, but Osman
should always get sent off. I think you can argue whether or not Emirhan should get sent off as
well. Like some of the referee experts argue that both should have gotten sent off. I think
I disagree. I disagree as well. I think Osiman should be sent off. What he does is over the line.
It’s unacceptable from gra. What what Emhan does first and foremost was pushing him away because
he just kicked his teammate. And I also think if you give Emirhan a red card, you’re giving him
a red card to appease the crowd and to appease Galatasaray because you’re you would not give a red
card for that if that’s the isolated situation. If if Osman doesn’t like do what he did, you
wouldn’t give a red card. You would always just give a yellow. But the only reason you would give
a red card there would be to appease the crowd and and the scene. Sorry to to cut you off. Uh no,
no, no, no. I was the one cutting you off. Um, can I can we just really quickly talk about like
what the hell was that little scene by Osie, man? Like is he okay like mentally? Like that
whole the histrionics that he you know he and like at the end after the whole thing was resolved
he’s like running at UIC and being held back by like eight or nine different guys. Like what was
that all about man? He kicked him like oh what he doing anyone? That’s it. He’s just an [ __ ]
It’s it’s it’s I think it’s the it encapsulates the the mentality of the entire Galatasaray team. They
are so used to getting away with murder that they don’t they they can’t react normally to getting
penalized for something normal. Like you actually have gals fans online like they do they’re doing
like fan polls like do you think the red card for Davinson Sánchez was was justified and like
80% of their fans are saying oh a yellow card would have been enough like but look yeah even
zone walked off the pitch like damn I knew that’s the demented state of mind these these Galatasaray fans
are in because like they’re so used to getting away with last man falls in derbies. Like I think
the last couple of years they’ve done it at least twice in Fenerbahçe games. They’ve done it four or
five times in Beşiktaş games. They got two red cards, but they could they could have had five. Like
they’re so used to getting away with with ambiguous situations where is he the last man?
Is he not? But this is a position where there’s no argument. Absolutely. Like he is 100% the last
man. There is nobody else is close. He clips his foot and Rafa is true on goal. And you know what?
I don’t know about you guys. I would have taken a 2-nil over a red card because I think 2-0 I I
think two- nil it’s done. I think if we score a second goal, it’s over. I actually think we
play since we played 11 men on the park. Yeah, I think so. But that’s but isn’t that kind of what
like Beşiktaş has been like the last couple of years we we’re always better 11 versus 11. 10 versus 11
we we don’t do particularly well and especially in derbies as well like der in derbies the team that
goes down to 10 men usually comes out the winner remember Fenerbahçe [ __ ] two years ago in in in Galatasaray Stadium Fred got sent off and they come away with the win remember us in Kadıköy multiple times we
go down to 10 and we come away with the win like it it’s not an advantage I think in a derby to
play against 10 men on paper of Of course it is, but in in practice we see very often it’s not.
Especially like I think what happens is you come into this match with a sort of pre-prescribed like
like a notion of how you’re going to play. And so even if the other if your opponent goes down to
10 men, you’re not going to it’s actually probably more difficult to completely switch your game plan
and and like start like be asked to play a diff a completely different way than you pre-planned than
it is to just like play with more desperation and you know cover for that guy who’s out etc. Right?
I think I mean obviously I’m not saying that tactically there’s there’s no benefit to having
an extra player but I just think especially in a game like this right a match like this where the
pre-planning and like how you like especially when you’re the weaker side right let’s be serious just
beat Liverpool midweek they haven’t lost yet in the super league we’re the weaker side in every
way right on paper in form you know in terms of chaos around the club all of that [ __ ] so we’re
the ones that had come in with a very specific game plan of like how we’re going to counter this,
how we’re going to counter that. So, in a way, going going up a man kind of throws that all into
chaos in a way that it wouldn’t for perhaps even Galatasaray. So, I think we were certainly impacted
by that and I I mean, I don’t know. Let’s see the like lineup and stuff before we dig in perhaps.
We can’t obviously we can’t complain about playing against but I, you know, and don’t want to make it
seem like, you know, Yeah. Yeah. We’re the victim. No. Yeah, exactly. Definitely not. But let’s let’s
let’s allow Kartal to finish his thought because I feel like we he hasn’t been able to get a word
edgewise here. Sorry for that. So from Glasgow. Yes. So no, I mean just when I look at the game
as a whole, I think we should be winning that game every time. I think it’s a disgrace that we we
drew. That’s my honest opinion. We should always be winning that game after they go down to 10 men
with us already one n up. Um we as K um alluded to we gave them very few chances. I mean apart from
a goal they had a couple of heading opportunities. One of them was a bit of a half chance. The only
one that was maybe clear cut was the the Dson one which was a great chance. We had more chances
than them. Okay. I don’t think we played good really good at all man especially after they went
down to 10 men. I didn’t like I didn’t like your performance. We didn’t start playing again until
after they scored. Um yeah, how did he miss that brother? And that pass from Matt and D man,
I think the two of them just [ __ ] that up big time. There was clearly an issue because we
tried to build up through the back a few times and we lost the ball a couple of times and one
of them cons one of them ended up in a goal. And it’s it’s it’s been a problem for a long time.
And like for me, I mean, we were we were arguing about this yesterday after the game because our
boy Evan, of course, who has a boner for Ndidi, not in a good way. Like he was blaming Ndidi.
And I’m look, I’m not saying obviously what Ndidi like his his first touch is abysmal. Uh and and
he’s 100% at fault there. I also think Matt is 100% at fault there. I I think both of them share
the responsibility. But for me, it’s not so much about those two players. It’s about the tactical
decision to take that that goal kick short every each time. I think in the first half we took a a
long goal kick two maybe three times and one of those times it resulted in one of our dangerous
attacks. Like I don’t understand why we keep insisting on taking our goal kicks short. Look,
I understand the principle behind it because you want to start building out from the back, but we
have shown time and time again that we don’t have a goalkeeper, nor do we have central defenders or
even fullbacks that are capable to properly build out from under the back when put under intense
pressure. I think we should I I think I even said this at halftime, Katel. I said we need to
stop playing it short from be from from out the back because it’s causing us problems. And I I I
don’t know if I I think I said it at halftime in a in one of our group chats. And it’s like I knew
this was going to if it was going to go wrong, it was either going to be in a corner or it was going
to be one of those shitty short goal kicks. And it just reminds me of last season against Bodø/Glimt
and against uh Ajax and other games where we got hurt in the same way. And I don’t understand,
especially in a game like this. you’re a man up, you’re a goal up. And um really what you need to
avoid is taking unnecessary risks. Like for me, just boot that ball up the pitch. Let Tammy deal
with it. Let El-Bilal deal with it. Maybe they win the header, maybe they don’t. But worst case
scenario, you alleviate the pressure uh for 20 30 seconds. Whereas when you take it short and your
your guys who are played in are immediately put under pressure, you’re instantly back on the back
foot. If you can’t play out from the back properly and this has been this was proven time and time
again because the amount of goal kicks we got in the first half. I think we got like 10 goal kicks
in the first half because they like Barış Alper shot it to the [ __ ] heavens like five six times.
Um, we got so many goal kicks in the first half. Like Lamina, Lamina had those lamina lamina
from midfield. Lamina had a couple of tries, but Banish’s shots were terrible. So they had
some tries some distance because they couldn’t get through our defense and we kept getting these
goal kicks and these goal kicks kept resulting in immediate turnover straight away possession loss
because either uh either Gökhan or Emhan uh would or or Djaló I don’t know exactly which were the guys
that were making the mistakes but I mean mistakes look they were just Gsar were really good and we
know this this is GS mo they press really high and very intensely. So why do we very good at that?
Yeah. And why do we hate this on the on the short goal kick? It’s just unnecessary. Yeah. So, okay,
I have two comments about the goal kicks. One Merritt pissed me off the entire match with that.
I actually didn’t give him much. I didn’t give him a lot of negative minuses as I have in previous
games, but like he’ll boot the ball up the field and always give it away by the way whenever he
does that. Sometimes Yeah, he does. uh when when he has guys to his side that aren’t under pressure
and I swear to God whenever there is pressure on those guys he passes it short and I’m like bro
like what what is the backwards thing? You you can’t you can’t excuse Ndidi but also passing it
through the middle like that is also a big no no. That’s a big no no. And look, the pass did he lose
the ball because he has to change his direction cuz he’s moving in one way and because the pass
comes to him. If he keeps moving that way, it’ll be stolen off him by whoever was to his right.
And so he has to make a kind of quick change of direction as soon as the ball comes to him, which
is what prompts like him sort of fumbling the ball and then Lucas Teda kind of coming in for it. But
it’s because he literally can’t like he has to as he’s receiving the ball, he has to change his
direction, which you know, you should never be putting a guy in a position like that right in
front of the goal. Of course, when they’re like that’s their only opportunity to score too, right?
Like they can’t build up that’s that’s my like you can you can you can blame or you can fault and
for the bad touch, but he shouldn’t be getting that pass in that position. And also what’s
what’s really the difference between playing it short and having that man who get receives the
ball immediately booted up the field or out into a touch or just having the goalkeeper take a long
goal kick. What what do you what do you win? I mean it’s so it’s so it’s so stupid. And look,
I’m I’m not just saying this is Seran’s fault because Giovani Van Bronos made this mistake.
Ola Soa made this mistake. Look, I understand why you want to do it because a modern a team like
basically should be able to do it, but clearly we do not have the personnel to do it. So, as long as
you don’t have the personnel, as long as you don’t have the central defenders and the fullbacks who
are comfortable enough on the ball, who are able to because a big part of it is how much time
do they take receiving the ball? How much time do they then take to pick out the next pass? All
that kind of stuff. Also, the quality quality of the pass coming from the goalkeeper is important.
And the quality of the pass and sorry, Mets Mets’s passing isn’t good. Um, so as as long as we don’t
have a goalkeeper and the and the back line to accommodate building out properly from the back,
you can say as many times as you want, a team like BA should be able to do it. But as long as the
reality is that we’re not able to do it properly, as long as we end up in big trouble against
teams that press high and aggressively, then we shouldn’t do it. Why? Why? Why do we do this? Like
10, 15 years ago, everyone like all goal kicks got taken long. So we have a big strong target, man.
Just take it long. Especially in this situation, you’re a man up. You’re a goal up. Why? Why? It’s
just so stupid. like you can blame, you can blame Ndidi, but I think the tactical approach there
was wrong. And I’ll also add that El Bil I still I’m going to This is the hill Al. I don’t think
it should be a left wing, but the one thing he was providing was actually on the long goal kicks. He
has a pretty good aerial presence. So he managed to actually get us the ball even though it was
like a bad goal kick like three or four times where he’d actually just beat his guy a you know
headed down into the path of Tammy or Rafa or whoever it was that was coming forward. So it’s
like we even kind of had the personnel for that which is Yeah. I don’t know. You’re right. And
especially there’s something mystifying especially when Sanchez got sent off. Like that’s their Well,
Abdülkerim is also really strong in the air but like one of their very big aerial weapons is gone.
Why not play that long ball more? Like you’re in a position to do it. We should have. And this is
I loved I loved what Tammy said in the postmatch. I thought it was spot on. He said we were too
nice. And I think he’s 100% right. I think we He said we should have been nastier. And he’s 100%
right. We should have been nasty. We should have been laying down. We should have been crying. We
should have been We should have been playing anti- football. We should have been frustrating them.
Gotsai were ready to boil over. You can see it in the reaction of Osman. If we would have played
that dirty Turkish style, but this is just not Bashes’s style. Bashesh never do do this. But if
we would have done that, I think they would have gotten a couple more red cards because they would
not have been able to cope with it. They would have gotten so frustrated. And they’ve done it
so many times to us. Fenerbahçe have done it so many times for to us, but we just can’t do it. We are
too nice. We we aren’t nasty enough. We Yeah, we and also Tammy was saying this also in the context
of we weren’t winning the duels and that was a massive massive issue. The second ball kept going
to God. And look, props to God. 10 down to 10 men, winning almost 60% of the of the of the ground
duels in this game. Spoiler alert. But like, kudos to them. I mean, they just come off the
their Liverpool game. And I felt like they wanted this game more. They were hungrier. Um, I fault
our our our team. Honestly, I think the mentality going into this game was wrong from the team. I
don’t know if that has to do with the players’s compl if it’s I don’t think it’s complacency but I
don’t know if that has to do with the players were like oh we’re playing against Gala like too much
respect or if it’s like the tactical preparation I don’t know which it which one of those it is maybe
it’s a combination of both but I did not feel like we went into this game with the intention of of of
we’re coming to win this game. I felt like we were in a in a game where we’re like okay we’re going
to give we’re going to let them have the ball. We’re going to sit back. We’re going to counter.
Again coming back to what we’ve been saying the last couple of weeks uh Kartal if this would have
been Ole and this would have been the result. He would have been shed on tremendously the only
thing the only thing I want to ask a question to Kart. Yeah. Can I ask you a question? cuz you
actually said something that I was going to say in your sort of uh intro speech about like the the
sort of mentality that we went into the match and how we were playing. So that wasn’t even going
up a man or not. Uh there was something kind of like bad about how we approached the match. I
felt the same way. Now, did you feel like that was and I I was going to ask you then and then we
kind of went off on our own tangents and all that, but did you feel like that was like a tactical
decision like that we went out to play a certain way? Did you feel like it was players falling
back into old habits? Did you you know like what did you feel like individuals just had like
such poor performances in some cases that like it kind of set the team back and we had to play
more? Like what what did you feel like what had us playing like that do you think? See, I actually
don’t think the starting plan was bad. I think see if you go to the Arien and you want to give them
the ball and hit them on with quick transitions. I think that’s fine. What I have a problem with
is see when you’ve got them down to 10 men, you should be going for the jugular. We did. Yeah,
that’s the bit that annoys me. We should have went for the jug after they went after they went down
to 10 men. There’s nothing wrong with with playing that style to start a game when it’s 11 v1 11 in
that stadium against a Galatasaray team that on paper is a stronger team than They do that against us
as well when they play in our round, you know, it’s it’s a struggle to adapt. They do. Yeah.
Yeah. But I think once they go down to 10 men, man, we should have been smelling blood and we
we we didn’t. We sat back. That’s the mistake. That’s where the the mentality was poor. Um, in
regards to your question, Sinan, I can’t say for sure. Obviously, I’m I didn’t experience what
what happened in training or what Saran said to the players. Saran did kind of blame the players
slipping into old habits. It seemed like he kind of put on the old coaching stuff. He says it’s
going to take time to kind of clean out these old habits. I wasn’t telling I think that’s so
super easy because I mean we we we get to Yeah, I’m not saying that. No, but like we we get to
halftime with the 1-nil score line and I feel like that is the opportunity for the coach to
then uh turn things around to say, “Hey guys, look, we have to be more aggressive. We have to be
better in the duels. We have to be playing more on the front foot.” And I feel like we came out the
dressing room like completely the opposite way. uh like yeah I mean it was all gri for for for
10 15 minutes until they scored and then after the goal you could tell look they spent a lot of
energy uh getting that and nothing like I think the I think the sad part is if we last 10 more
minutes I think they’re done because honestly after they scored they were done for the most
part um here look at the momentum chart I wonder if this will show you see that white dip dip at
the end of the match Yeah, that’s all. That’s after their goal. Mhm. Yeah. That’s all us. That’s
after their goal. So, like as soon as they scored, it was entirely us. Yeah. So, it’s it’s it’s
it’s a shame. And that’s what I’m also saying like if we score a second goal in this game,
it’s over. And it doesn’t matter if it comes at 1 nil or it comes at 1-1. I think if we score,
it’s over. And you know, it’s it’s it’s it’s such a shame. And it’s a missed opportunity. I think
is what Kart said in in the group chat or maybe Ojan said it like it’s a missed opportunity. I
I’m not too like you know I’m not too obsessed with that eight years stuff like it doesn’t really
matter that much for me honestly. Yeah. It’s not it’s not that man. It’s the fact that we’ve
already lost two games this season. Mhm. If we won this game that would have been such a great
launching pad for the rest of a great at the very literally they they put it on a golden platter
like Mhm. like [ __ ] there’s three points on a plate and we [ __ ] that you know at the very end
of the last roing report I was I kind of realized as I was going cuz I’d gone through the results
we didn’t lose the entire month you know it was pretty good good grades going around and it dawned
on me as I was like saying bye to everyone that we were going into a glatas match where if we win it
Mhm. the league becomes more interesting. Oh yeah, of course. Like it it doesn’t just right.
It absolutely salvages our season, but our season isn’t like unsalvaged in in a way like
this just sort of kicks the can down the road, but like we’re still very much I don’t want to say
favorites for second place, but I’m going to say this. No, we’re not favorites, but we’re in We’re
not favorites. We’re not favorites, but right, Fenerbahçe is drawing Samson right now. Yeah. Uh which
means Samson just had a penalty canled by the way by V. So, you know, but so if Sam Thompson holds,
it means that our game in hand could actually put us into position for second place. Oh, yeah.
So, I’m not saying we’re favored for second like when the season ends, but I will say is that this
result does not derail the fact that we are still very much in the competition for second place.
And frankly, what are we how many points are we out of first right now? Nine. Now, it’s nine.
But if we would have won this game, six. Yeah. If we were to win this game, if we win this game, it
will be six with a game in hand. So then it could theoretically be three. Three. I think exactly. I
think that’s why right like that result like the win would actually make this season something
that we would never have anticipated it being like 3 weeks ago, right? Like so that’s why I was
even like I stopped myself from even saying what the win could mean cuz like I’m not going to jinx
that. I’m not going to put that out there cuz holy [ __ ] like it it it like it literally dawned on
me while I was like speaking to like Yeah. No, that you’re right. I think I think Kartal’s right.
I I I think not only was it a missed opportunity, I have a feeling that a lot of people didn’t even
realize the opportunity that was sort of dangling there when we were sitting on a one-nil lead in
the you know 50. That’s what I I kind of think I feel like Sean was after the game I feel like
he was like I I I didn’t get the sense that he was super disappointed, you know. I I I got the
sense that he was kind of happy with the point, you know, and he did say we’re upset. He did say
it, but it’s about But you have to Yes. But you need to see how he says it. The body language. He
he didn’t come across as a frustrated manager, as a frustrated coach, you know. He didn’t quite his
body language wasn’t that and his inonation wasn’t that. He was like I think he was very much of
like yeah I’ll take a point here even though this was a game like I mean and also the the fact that
this is the first time in in so long that I feel like we’ve played a game away at Galatasaray where we
didn’t have to play against the referees for the first time. And look, you can you can argue that
that Osman needs to get sent off that uh you know, and there’s a couple more, but I think look,
for me, Yasin Cole had a decent game. I think he made a couple of weird decisions like when he
didn’t let the the second sub come on straight away and then he blew his whistle and that was
really stupid. Like that also like shadow on for that. Yeah, I just think this guard’s a really
really bad referee, man. rather than just being um nauseous. I just think he’s bad at his job.
You need to be careful. Yeah, watch out. Yeah, there’s no there’s no You can say that, but wasn’t
he the referee as well last season when we beat them? I think he was. So, I mean, he might not be
a good referee, but at least he’s he wasn’t he’s not screwed us in those games. It’s very different
to like who was the the co the referee in in the first game against them last season in the
league. like we got proper screwed in that game, you know? At least it wasn’t that. And remember
remember Bulantiel and remember all those other refs that that that that really effed us up in
their stadium like like you’re playing against 12 men and yesterday I have to give God right kudos
because I feel like the last couple like they this is they’re going on half a decade of dominance at
this point. They win the league that’s four out of four championships in four years. That’s half a
decade almost, you know, one more year, it’s five. Um, so they’re they’ve been really dominant this
decade, this half decade, and it looks like that’s going to continue for at least not this season and
maybe into the next. Um, I have to say that I have been in in our head-to-head matches with Gatsai
in in in those seasons under Okamuk. I would argue this was the most impressed I’ve been with
God because in all the other games, I feel like they needed help by the refs. I feel like they
were they they didn’t show up playing like you know we last season obviously in in the in in the
game in their stadium we got [ __ ] by the ref in our home game we [ __ ] them the season before we
lost to them twice but it wasn’t they weren’t good in those games they didn’t impress me I’ve said
this so many times like Fenerbahçe beat us twice that season and they they deserved it 100% were
not dominant they did not play well and you can argue okay they needed they didn’t need to play
well to beat You could argue that, but like I have not been impressed with GSA in the derbies against
Vishnes at all. This is the best GSA I’ve seen in those derbies. Even though they didn’t they didn’t
win, but this was this was a better gods than I’ve seen in previous iterations of this of this
fixture in the last three three and a half years. So like kudos kudos to them. I’d argue maybe the
the very first one on the rock and when they beat us 2-1. I I think I don’t remember that honestly.
Which 2-1? That was when Cher Ganesh first came back. It was like his second game in charge.
Wasn’t that the one where they get the where they get the penalty in the in the 86 minutes? No, that
was that was two years ago when Burak was manager. I mean, what killed me was the ease with
which it it it broke my heart to see how easily they could build up. Um, it’s cuz we
weren’t I don’t know if you noticed that C, but like they were pressing super high and they
were pressing our defenders. We did not press them at all. We started pressing on the halfway line
every time. We didn’t press their defense [ __ ] which was something that we were really I thought
improving at like steadily throughout the course of it’s Tammy Tammy is a really good presser. El
Pur is a really good presser and and every we and when he did press he made a few decent steals too
which was kind of like okay let’s just keep doing that what are we and it was a big mistake and
Okan even said it after the game that when they went down to 10 UAN essentially became like like
a second central defender and of course Lamina was dropping in and stuff like that but UA was really
uh very pivotal to their buildup and we didn’t press Wu Jan we we just let him we just let him
be with his feet yeah There was a play where he literally dribbled it forward. You know, we kind
of covered all of his lanes and then he dribbled it forward again and we covered the lanes more and
it was the same thing over and over and over again until he was literally almost halfway up the field
and with no pressure on him still and he like dked a pass over and I was kind of like guys ridiculous
like press him we have an extra man like we can even afford to. Yeah, that was a if all your G
were the coach last night, they were getting and that’s one that’s that’s you can say it shows
you the the two faced um Oh yeah. the nature of the practice. This is that that is 100% a tactical
decision. You can’t tell me that’s that’s players falling back into old habits because under Ole
we were always pressing high. So and under Gio as well under Gio and under Ole we were always
pressing high. we weren’t allowing them to build up. Our our our game plan under Ole NGO was win
the ball back as high up the pitch as possible because the closer the the distance becomes to to
the opposition’s goal. So like that was not there yesterday. And I think especially after going
a goal up and a man up, we should have changed the game plan and we should have started pressing
them higher and higher. And yeah, I think I think the the main reason we didn’t win yesterday was
the tactical approach with Sean. Simple as that. And look, yeah, obviously the mistake as well. If
all if our players don’t shut the bed, I suppose you could say that. Of course. Yeah. I mean, look,
they don’t shut the bed. The But that’s I guess to strengthen Khan’s point, they win the game.
But to strengthen Khan’s point, right, you kind of put yourself in a position where one mistake
can do that, right? If you if you of course play the way we do, I can use Khan. But it was just
it was a game where like it feels like I lost, man. M every time I like I can’t say I’ve been
like overly upset but every time it comes to my comes to my mind I just go oh for [ __ ] sake
like how did we let that happen like how how did that happen man that’s what that’s my my thought
process and see if they like scored this really nicely constructed goal beautiful play I just
say oh fair enough but the fact that as as I said earlier like we were given the three points like
on a silver platter and we just [ __ ] knocked out their hands and said no we don’t want three points
just we’ll share them the [ __ ] let’s have a look at the lineups guys and then we can talk about the
individual performances of the players so here’s the two lineups I’ll go I’ll do it um oh okay uh
let me quickly pull pull up my the uh the one with positions so I can do this a little more easily
I’ll do arrivals this time just for the sake of uh them being more a little more relevant than
you. It’s it’s numerous of course in goal by number unfortunately. Yeah, exactly. Um in goal of
course Uran on their backline Davinson Sánchez and uh Abdülkerim Bardakçi uh left back Yakobs
right back single Wilfred. Will is Wilfred like a really popular name these days in Africa?
I feel like cuz they’re not even from the same country anyway. I’m getting off off course. In
the center of their midfield, Ilka Gundowan, Lucas Toreda, and of course, Mario Lemina,
and on their wings, Ununisakun and Barış Alper, eraser head, Yas with uh, of course, another
eraser head, Victor Osiman, in the middle. Um, yeah, the masked villain. [ __ ] that guy, man.
He was really like I I didn’t know he I I maybe I didn’t I didn’t watch Gladi as much as I thought
I had, but I never realized how petulant he was. He’s I mean usually maybe they’re just doing
well enough that he doesn’t have the need for the histrionics, but Jesus, he was I think I think
that’s what makes all the arm. No, I think with players like him that’s what make them so good and
effective. I think they get so worked up and and like they they drive on the hatred almost like uh
Yeah, I think that’s what makes them good. I mean, you know, I mean, uh, I I think we have to give
Emir props because this is the third game he’s faced Osman and I think like it’s the third time
he absolutely pocketed him, but also pocket him. So, Osimman was zero gold threat essentially. His
XG was 0.04. Uh, but but I do think he was very effective on the long balls. He got on the end of
a lot of those long balls and he was really good at those and he won falls and he won and yeah
he just in that regard he was really strong for them. So he’s a good player. He’s a he’s a great
great player. Of course he’s one he’s one of the best strikers in the world. There’s no doubt
about that man. It sucks that he’s there but um but I will say like what a [ __ ] job done
by talk about individual. All right let’s let’s do our lineup and then we can dig into individual
performances. Yeah. I mean, any anyway. All right. First of all, our goal Meritt Gunn. Uh, and let’s
just talk about each one individually while we do this. Like, yeah, let’s Where do you rate Merritt?
Obviously, he [ __ ] the game. So, I thought Met was not good. There we go. I think Met’s been been
poor the entire season, quite honestly. Um, you guys know me. I’m not a fan of Me to begin with. I
think it’s really high time we move on. Uh, I said this last episode. I think our big priority in
the summer should be invest heavily in a really, really good goalkeeper. I think Mets, this should
be the last season for me. Um, I mean, he can be on the bench after. I don’t have a problem with
that, but we need a left a left wing as well. We need a goalkeeper more than anything at the
moment. I feel he’s just it’s it’s, you know, it’s high time. Speaking of a left winger, we
brought in Rashita and Stev Hot yesterday. Yeah, it was interesting. Let’s we’ll get there when
we get there. Let’s let’s get there. So then we go look at our backline. Emirhan Topçu and Thiago
Djaló. I mean really they both played quite well, right? Yeah, they were our best players. They were
they were our best players. I thought Djaló apart from the very first year I think Jello’s been
phenomenal in a bishop. I think Emiran Top Show was phenomenal as well yesterday as you guys have
said they he kept awesome in his back pocket. He was phenomenal but I think we’ve got a really like
special center back on our hands in the form of Diego in terms of defending but every game I think
ironically probably would have been able to help out a lot in this game with his passing ability.
I think that would have alleviated us from quite some pressure and it’s funny you mentioned that
Khan you know I like so look Jalo was like the second best player I had in the second I kept
finding myself taking points from Emirhan and I kept giving him like two points amazing tackle
two two pluses for a great tackle like for like physically handling Aussie man but it has to be
noted his passing was really poor and I tried I like I even took away demmerits cuz I didn’t want
to like [ __ ] up his grade by do with them. But I looked at the stats afterwards and he had like
a 69% rate on the ground. I think he was 0 for four passing in the air. He did give away the
ball a number of times with his like attempts at long balls. Sometimes he’d just kick him too
fast when nobody was expecting it. But that’s a direct result of the of those short corner kicks,
right? Like you’re you’re giving them the ball under pressure and he doesn’t have the time.
have the ability to Yeah, exactly. And he’s a central defender at the end of the day. Like, you
know, most central defenders don’t have that skill set to play out from under pressure like that.
Like, you need to be like company or something. You know, Diego is actually known for having like
good passing. And I think so far we’ve seen decent passing, but I can’t see being blown away as of
yet with his passing. No, but he is a player that is known um to be good at building up play from
the back. I mean, I I won’t say that we’ve not seen it because I think his passing has been fine,
but I don’t think we’ve seen anything special like a a tictor type of Yeah, we’ve not seen that
type of passing from. But we’ll just maybe see with that more time if we see more of that
passing because I think it’s been fine. But but that’s like true. I do agree. We do see some more
kind of line breaking passes from Palista so far. But yeah, but Kartal look I mean if you look at
this lineup right like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 out of the starting 11 are new players. Like I I think it’s
not abnormal that we aren’t functioning 100% yet. And I think with that in mind as well, like look,
we should have won this game and it’s a missed opportunity. But I think taking into consideration
the fact that eight out of our 11 players are new. A lot of them arrive well quite a few of them
arrived later. El Černý, uh, Djaló, they all Gökhan Saza, they all arrived later. Like I think
we need to give this team like another month or two before we start getting If anything I feel
like they probably convinced us right that like they’re good enough that we probably should given
the result yesterday. And if anything the fact that we all kind of feel like we should have won
that match is a testament to the fact that failed relatively quickly. I mean that backline, we have
a new backline as of like as I was talking about the shorting report, it like through the course of
the last month of September that slowly happened, right? Emiran was like on the outside looking
in of the rotation and he seized I by the way I’m proud of you guys for for your analysis like
lined up with with my Schwaring report analysis perfectly. Like you guys were complimenting
Emirhan after the the match before last. you were complimenting uh UICK after the last match, right?
UICK has settled in smoothly, right? Like that’s good. I mean, something I want to call out here.
Um, see Jur, man, I think he played another solid game and I think he did. He did after a very rough
start, he’s been playing a lot of solid games. In fact, I think the last like four four games or so,
four or five games, he’s been solid. Mhm. But just because of that play at the end, people there’s
so many people [ __ ] on them online saying that we need to send them back. Yeah. It’s and Okay.
Yes. It was it was very annoying to watch. Man, these people these people have never these people
have never stepped on a football intense game. Yeah. But we’re in injury time of an intense game
that it can happen. Okay. Yes. It’s frustrating. Yes. It’s a shame. But yeah, you can’t you can’t
just say a guy’s a [ __ ] player just because of one instance. He had a solid game overall. I
think I mean he didn’t do anything wrong in this game. I’ll put it that way. And you know
yeah I think like Junisk was good. Jon Hean I think brilliant. Our best players. I think so far
I think Jal’s probably been the transfer I’ve been most impressed by. Um and then the only player on
the defense that I didn’t think played very good was Gans as to be honest. I thought Sharpen beat
him quite a few times. I actually thought he was better after I first watched the match. I thought
he was bad and then on my rewatch I actually like he his first half was pretty solid. He he was so
what I noticed and so he and Barış Alper Yılmaz were in a battle on that side and he I mean it he won
most of the the the the battles in their war. You could probably say Barış Alper won the war
because like by the end of the second half he was just burning like blowing past him. Like Gökhan
says I think he had he he had him in the first half but in the second half his fatigue started
to wear. You know Barış Alper is such a petulant little [ __ ] too. Like the way he’s shoving and
yanking and like constantly just like like it’s like a boxer. He’s like wearing you down in a way
that should be called by referees like he should it should be called. But um you could tell that
by the end like he was just like putting like full arm bars into Sazda’s chest and for a while
Saza would like hold firm and then even like push him back but then by the end he just like
fall backwards and then let him come in from the wing with a little danger. Yeah. Like I don’t
know. It was a it was a game of ups and downs. I definitely don’t think he was terrible. Um but
like you know and like I didn’t think Barish was particularly good actually like um I think you he
was beaten three times but by by that’s a lot man three times in the second half all in the second
half I don’t think I I don’t think that’s that much given the fact of how much they play over
him because like Ununus we Ununus we barely saw dude I I don’t I’ve never seen so much activity
around one player saz diet it’s like negative plus negative like there’s three lines of like
they were their plan was to attack his side with Bisher. So you’d have to expect he’d beat him a
few times. He also because Jurisex the one that’s only to be a a bad defender but don’t even have
a a dribbled pass on here. So I’d imagine that means he wasn’t dribbled pass. that this like um
in the early games like we the the first couple of games Uras looked looked like it like you know I
I likened him to Janer like where he’s going to be good offensively but defensively he’s going to be
a liability but quite honestly I think in the last games we haven’t seen that defensive liability you
know maybe yeah I’d go as far as saying it was it was brilliant defensively against co but maybe to
an extent it’s also because the opponent seemed to attack more over Gökhan’s side. But I mean I It’s
just strange though. If you if Jotex so weak at the fence, why would they not attack over over
our left? I know. Doesn’t really make sense. It doesn’t it doesn’t I mean and but the thing is
is I think he’s proven that he’s not such a we a weakness in that sense like Yeah. Yeah. I mean we
I’m glad we’re doing this. I’m glad we’re praising cuz it it’s worth doing. But guys, it also
depends on who where which winger plays where, right? Like it doesn’t matter, I think, who the
opposition’s left back is. If you have Quareshma or Gazal on the right, you’re going to play over
the right like 80 70 to 80% of the time. So, it’s not always a case of, oh, well, they’re playing
over the over the left because Gökhan Sai is the weak link. No, maybe just their most influential
winger is on the left. And I think for Galatasaray, you can you can you can twist or turn it. And
I think Ununus Akun has has developed and has become a really important player for Galatasaray. I
still think that the majority of their uh like they they utilize Barış Alpar a lot and it’s not
because Barış Alpair is a great crosser or a great um a great shooter because he’s not we saw that
and we’ve seen that so many times like he’s not like end product wise I know he had a good season
last season in terms of goals but like he’s a he’s not a good end product player but he’s a really
strong physical he’s a handful he’s fat past. He’s he’s so difficult to to play against and you have
to give him props for that. Like I think he lacks I think he I think Barış Alper will never go
to a European top club and if he does he won’t he won’t make it because he lacks too much eccentric
quality but and he does he won’t have the gravity test with any other club that he does with Glad.
So it’s like he’s like Kartal will understand this. He’s like a volume shooter, right? He’s
like a Jaylen Green. If you give someone 25 shots, they’re gonna definitely score 30 points every
game, but there’s they might not be efficient or good. It’s just that you’re giving them all of
the looks. Yeah, exactly. But he he has physical ability to compensate for that, especially
in Turkey. In in in the Champions League, we see that he doesn’t get away with that
as easily. Like he gets bullied. I mean, he he doesn’t bully everyone physically as as
easily, but like in Turkey, he’s like, you know, for for the Turkish League, he’s he’s brilliant.
Yeah, you have to you can you can you can hate him as much as you want, but you also have to
give him credit, I think. And um I Big [ __ ] in a small pond. Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Yeah. Um and let’s uh let’s talk about them. That wasn’t my fan. He had some good uh he
had some good plays, but uh it wasn’t wasn’t his best game for sure. I didn’t think he was
good. And then on the replay, it’s always the same [ __ ] with him, man. You start to see him
work in the engines. Like when you really watch like carefully what he’s doing out there, it’s
hard. It’s the same thing with Rafa, too. Like, of course, now they’re ended in the green. Uh,
but they are always doing things that are of a high enough quality that when you really pay
attention, it’s like, [ __ ] man. Like, that guy wasted what he did for him there. And oh my god,
there was a that could have been a great chance if like that guy had been on the same wavelength
as you know and and both of them are always doing enough every game that when you really hyperfocus
on what they’re doing it’s like it’s almost like I mean on our goal or on our goal essentially
does what Terrera does on their goal just more work because Orun first he he wins the ball off
Terrera he runs up the pitch plays it into Černý gets it back has I think he has a shot UN saves
it and Tammy taps in the rebound or well smashes in the rebound and it’s like like on that goal
or does does does quite well. I think he could have maybe made a better decision at the end, but
obviously it ended up in a goal anyway. But I, you know, I think you have to give him props and
he had some moments like that. But all in all, I think Okun and both Okun and Ndidi I
think um our midfield trio Okun and Diddi and like I said many times the feed’s
dropped Marty. Okay, let me check it. Uh oh. And both and I think um our midfield trio
we’re still going. Like I said many times still alive. All right. So, um, for our also guys, if
that happens again, like don’t just, you know, confirm it first before you tell me to stop or,
you know, that must have maybe there’s like a a gale on I think, you know, when you look at the
midfields in the Super League, I think Lemina, Torera, Ilkai, that is a very strong trio. And
I think our trio Rafaun and Didi like that is one of the few trios that they’ll come up against
where they where they’re going to get dominated I think physically because I think physically Lamina
and Terrera were they were the the best two guys on the pitch. I think the reason the reason
Galurai didn’t lose this game is Lemina and Terrera. They they I thought those two players
were phenomenal. They were the like is between those two for the man of the match and um like
I think that’s the key and and I think I’ve said this before like in an ideal world we would have
kept Jetson and sold Rafa. Now look Rafa is very important a very important player for us. He still
is but I think Jetson Orun and Didi would have it would have been a very even fight. It would have
been very very even. And it would have been very interesting to see that. But I think Rafa and
Ndidi is is a little bit too weak to put up against that midfield in an away game. I think
you’re going to get dominated. And I also think also the midfield you mentioned it fits in more
with what S getting done in his first stint that was successful with as well. But we So I think
you’re you’re more likely to see a repeat of that success because it’s a It’s a midfield that’s
closer to the one that he was successful with. I do think this this midfield that we currently have
with with Rafa, but once Rafa gets up and going, like you’re going to get a lot more return out
of that than you do with a BMA. Um, so I mean, and Rafa is slowly picking up steam again. I
mean, Rafa in this game, uh, people are of course frustrated with him missing that chance. And I
think the irony with that chance is last week we were talking about it. Remember Kartal I said look
he has two options there. Play it over the ground and that’s the safest bet for a goal or he can
try and knock it in the roof of the goal and then it’s unsafeable and now he tries to knock it in
the roof of the goal but he skies it. You know I think and that’s also something I I noticed at say
that he always plays it low. Why doesn’t he play it low there? And you know it’s it’s the wrong
decision. I think if if Rafa plays it low there, it’s probably a goal. I’ll end. Yeah. Pack Shak
if he packs Shak goal. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. You also have to consider that Rafa like he
earns us the red card. It would have been a goal otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like it’s not
like he it would have been a a 100% chance. It wouldn’t have necessarily been a goal. You have
to I mean you’d like to think it would have, right? Especially given his form from the last two
matches. Maybe he I mean I don’t think you can say it with certainty, you know. I mean, no, you’re
right. Of course. Of course. You never can. Yeah, but I just mean, um, I think it’s a good think
it was like a pretty positive, right? Let me put it this way. So, let’s fine. He he gets the red
card. That’s not a goal. Whatever. But he puts away that one chance and this goes down as like
Oh, yeah. kind of a Rafa master class really, right? Cuz you look at the rest of his performance
and the connection he’s doing. If he scores that goal then transfer marked will lower his value
by two more million because they every time you know he [ __ ] G side they lower his value by
two million. That’s well they’ve got someone in Fatmob and they’ve got someone in transfer marked.
I think we can say and I mean look I I don’t think you can say Rafa played a bad game necessarily.
I mean I think this is the second time in a row that he’s absolutely clowned the best
defender in the league. So you know you got to give him props for that. And it’s a shame he
doesn’t he doesn’t score the goal. And you know it really it’s a it’s a massive shame. I think
if he scores that goal but he doesn’t and uh we just have to live with it. No, the thing about
both Orin and Rafa’s performances is that I think um you know you’re rating them one one typically
is kind of rating them on a curve based on what you know they’re capable of rather than
like what they’re doing on the pitch. you expect more and when you really look at it
like they’re doing really amazing technically gifted things at all times throughout every match.
So like if you’re really if you’re really fairly grading them I think you wouldn’t be too hard on
them. It’s just that like you want to you you want to see like output in a way that you’re still not
seeing in a way. frustrated me most with Orun was he had some moments like multiple times where he
gave a g gave it away with a bad pass and that’s something I don’t I I that’s the thing from like
it’s like Muzati you the one thing you expect him to do well is passing right and like and I think
in other things like duels and all that kind of stuff I don’t think he had a bad game necessarily
but uh when it comes to I mean I I’d have to look at his his his numbers dual wise, but like
and obviously his numbers aren’t going to be impressive because the general numbers of the team
isn’t impressive, but I don’t think it was I don’t think it was abysmal, but I think his passing was
uh I’d have to look at the numbers, but I think his passing was subpar for his standards. Uh and
I I’ll actually look at those, but like I look, I don’t think we we need to fluff them up. It’s
not like they played that we don’t have to be all like, “Oh, but their game was was not that bad.”
I think you know we have to recognize that if if Basikesh as Bashikes if we want to win derbies
if we want to win especially away derbies I think we need players like Rafa and Orun and Ndidi we
need those guys to show up and I think yesterday they they didn’t like they did not perform
up to their standards let’s put it that way you know. Yeah. Now, my counter to that, K, is
that, and you’re not you’re not wrong at all, obviously. Um, but my only counter is that I
feel like what the problem was yesterday was like the ability to build up from the back is not
there, sure. But even when we can gain possession in the midfield and start advancing, we have
massive deficiencies with chance creation. And a lot of the problems that we’ve had from day
one with not like the the wings aren’t doing it or like yesterday Churnney was fantastic
in the first half, but he completely fell off a cliff in the second half. And when you
have a scenario where one guy is kind of like clutching at chances the way Churnney was by the
end of the the the second half and then you have Albu on the left side who’s just not a chance
creator. Like we’ve got to say call it like it is. And I you know I I’ve been saying this
a lot in the group chat and I’ll stand by it. Oh yeah, I don’t think playing a striker as
a left wing is a tactical mastermind kind of game plan. I think it’s a kind of a gimmick
and I think it can work in certain situations, you know, against certain teams tactically. Like
there’s certainly a time and a place for it, but we need chance creation out of those wings.
And I felt like that was a huge problem yesterday. Like you can, you know, I I really feel like the
the inability to flare out. Like look at UIC. UICK was like bombing forward and he almost had
nothing to really work with on the wing cuz like whenever he passed it into El Trude I mean he’s
not he’s not looking to put in like a great cross that’s going to sort of break down a defense.
He’ll always sort of pass it back on the ground towards Orun and sort of you know reset the attack
rather than like initiate, you know. So yeah, you know, I I do feel like that’s still kind of
for me tactically, like more than anything else, that’s a deficiency that we need to address.
By the way, uh systemic Okin stats are like the complete opposite of what I just said. Like
actually his his let’s call him midfielder stats are actually really good. Uh passes I was going
to say 49 out of 57 completed, 86% completion rate. That’s that’s good. pretty good. Um, two
two chances created, 0.19 exists, 0.24 xG. Uh, the thing where he actually looks really bad is
his duels. He won. He didn’t win a single one. Uh, ground duel zero out of five. Uh, aerial duel
zero out of one. But that’s a it’s weird because like he wins the ball from Terrera on our goal.
So that’s a duel, right? Like that’s a steal. That’s the Galatasaray bastard. But that’s a
duel as well. Like, so when I’m saying duels, Yeah. Yeah. That’s what I also interpreted. But
look, I mean, his number I mean, what’s his score here that he gets from from flop mop? Um, 6.9 with
a yellow card, too. That’s Yeah, that’s 6.9 with a yellow card and with zero duels won. So, let’s say
he wins like three or two out of five duels. Like, he probably has a 7.2 or 7.3 or something like
that. So, I mean, I told you guys, man. I dude you whenever anybody this is like a warning to anybody
and and this is why I never even comment on Orin’s performance now after my first watch cuz it’s like
it’s it’s [ __ ] uncanny. Sorry for the language. He is. Look, he is really good. It’s just that I
think the expectations for him are so high. That’s it. And the thing with a player like Orun, he also
had this at Benfica to an extent by the way, but I think Orun is a slow burn. I think he’s going to
over the course of time. He doesn’t fatigue. No, he doesn’t fatigue. That’s the crazy thing about
him. I don’t mean it like that. I mean it like I know. I know. That was He’s going to be He’s
going to be like Atiba in the sense where in like two or three years down the road, we’re going
to be like, man, Atiba is so good for us. He’s so important. And I feel like almost with Okun, if it
wasn’t for the fact that he cost 30 million euros, I think people would be like in a couple of months
would be like, man, this guy is so good. He’s he’s like irreplaceable. And I I think, you know,
just because of his price tag, we all like and and rightfully so, I think have really really high
expectations. I think Orun also with his ability, with his skill set, you expect goals, you expect
assists. and so far we haven’t really been getting them. But he is creating chances. He is Yeah, he’s
a really good player. He just needs to I think he needs to come into his own. I think he’s putting a
lot of pressure on himself as well now. Ever since I started doing this [ __ ] that’s that’s the he
and Rafa are the two guys that I find whenever I’m like, man, those guys were really off today,
you know, or or that guy was off, the other guy was good. who whatever the whatever the the theory
is going into it, I always am sh like shocked when I rewatched how, you know, when when they had a
bad game, they were actually okay. When they had an O game, they were actually good. When they
had a good game, they were actually fantastic, right? Like it’s it’s they’re they’re almost
hampered by expectation in that sense. But anyway, uh let’s uh Is there anyone we got to talk about
the wingers? Did you hear what what I said about the winger situation? Do do you have any comments
on that? Well, to be fair, I think we need to find a left wire cuz I don’t think to to raise the
the answer there. And I I think I I was I was away for a second while you were talking about it.
So, I did miss it. I was saying that I think that like playing a striker at left wing is more of a
gimmick than it is like a a tactical, you know, master plan or something. And I think it can be
very effective contextually in certain situations, but that like especially in a match like
yesterday, right? Like we need creation and so playing Anyway, you you can imagine where I
was going with I think you know when Jenis came on I think Jenis was better than Černý honestly. I
think yeah I thought I think Jenis was good. Mhm. By the way, Jenis not sold on Churnney yet to be
honest with you guys. I think um that journey he show he has some flashes of brilliance in every
game but I think he he doesn’t put his stamp on the game enough he doesn’t keep that going over a
sustained period of time throughout the game% but also again we need to be careful here because
he’s been with the team for a relatively short amount of time he arrives really late like we
have to not like we can’t jump the gun let’s not do the thing exactly we need to give these players
time And I fully agree with you. I I think Černý should bring more. He should be uh more present.
He needs to put his stamp on the game. Right now, we’re seeing flashes of brilliance like you said,
Kartal and he had those in this game as well. Like on on our goal, for example, he did he did per
exactly what he had to do. He did it perfectly. And there were as well. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So
he has these I just wanted also I didn’t really get the chance to comment on Oron and and DJ much
I think or did play his worst game but that he’s played in a while. I think the the Kayseri game
and the coer game he was better in um as for I’m starting to have some question marks about
this guy. I think he is a very good player but it’s about his fitness. It’s about his fitness.
Um I I think Yeah. But you need to I think I see I think you I think you need to wait a little bit
on that and not get too worried and you do need to remember he just came back from an injury and he
was rushed back. I think we can say um he so you know let’s you might I 100% yeah we’ve seen this
before. I feel like we’ve seen it with with other players in the past where I think Roman size and
and other players where we’re like ah but he just came back from an injury. Let’s let’s let’s chill.
But then like it it never really gets better. So hopefully with Ndidi like look if I would really
like it if Ndidi said I’m sorry national team I’m going to skip this international break cuz he got
called up again. And if I were him just at a new club coming off of an international break where
he got injured in already and now you’re just like I I take off the you know I think the responsible
thing for him to do was give forfeit for those for for that uh for that international break. I think
that would be the responsible thing especially when he’s cramping up 60 minutes into I mean that
was wasn’t that wasn’t that el was cramping up inde was cramping up as well and had to come off
that was but no he he cramped up later but didn’t he come off like didn’t he come off like he came
in off in like the 86th minute or something I see no but see if you watch throughout the game he’s
he’s cramping up no he gets stiff you’re right you’re right cartel he did get stiff his hands
are on his lap he’s he’s kind of limping Right, man. Like a really long time and he looked down.
You’re right. By the way, indeed he he pulled at he was like clutching at his groin. By the way,
guys, in a game in a game where we got dominated absolutely in duels and Didi actually won 75 71%
of his duels. Yeah. I mean like I don’t think he played that bad game apart from that mistake. But
yeah, it’s like as I was saying for for a large portion of that second half when he was off the
ball, his hands were his hands were on his thighs, man. Yeah. No, he had a he he strained his
hamstring or something at one point and he like kind of signal like he wanted to come off
and then like couldn’t cuz I think I think it was right around uh when the Jenis uh when the first
subs came and and they screwed up the the the backtoback sub thing and so like there was so much
uh heat around us bringing in subs that like we didn’t do that sub uh maybe as quickly as we could
have. Um, but yeah, no, I mean I I’ve noticed that too. I worry about his hamstring, but I I I agree
with Khan that like, you know, hopefully it it cools down. At the very least, we’ll get like by
the winter break, you know? I just hope he I just want him to like stay off that [ __ ] hamstring
for long enough to just let it recover, man. Yeah, but the the the thing is the guy does have a big
history of injuries. by the way used to playing with it for for NDI guys. Successful tackles two
successful uh clearances five headed clearances two recoveries three um like like what what he’s
there for he did really well. Um, five five out of seven duels won. Like I said, like in uh defensive
his defensive stats look good. Was fouled once, only committed one fall. I think only
committing one fall isn’t bad either for a defensive midfielder, especially when he does
have good uh defensive stats. Like it’s not like he wasn’t active defensively. Yeah, he does have
good defensive stats. The the main thing is here is fitness and he should never be the guy that’s
getting the ball when your opponent’s playing high press off a goal kick. Never. Yeah, by the way,
two two two out of two successful dribbles, by the way. That’s that’s interesting. Um, he had a
great one up the right side with Churnney and then um he got us a corner kick out of it, I think. No,
he he was like he didn’t, you know, typically if a guy has an error or plays a hand in an air that
like gives up a goal, they’re going to end in the red. He didn’t because he had enough redeeming
qualities in his performance. 88% passing accuracy, 23 out of 26. like his his passing was
supposed to be his weakness that if not for if not for that that the goal the mistake on the goal
like he actually had a solid game you know yeah he probably his score would have probably been
seven or something if he didn’t have that mistake that probably docked him with a lot of points
I don’t know how their point system works but like his stats are like you can’t find like you
can’t find anything wrong with his stats honestly it’s like I mean yeah apart from that obviously
it has the the box at the top it says that he a mistake. A direct mistake. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
that’s you can’t you can’t that hurt my ratings. You can’t um you can’t you can’t deny it. He He
[ __ ] He [ __ ] it up. But other than that, he had a solid game, honestly. Um even Merritt didn’t
end in the red for me. I mean, and I I’m sort of questioning that, but but like I mean, he had one
really good save, you know, on the tornado shot, uh you know, where Osman chased it down. He kind
of grabbed it like he tor shot. Nobody was like bad. Nobody was uh you you might not recall from
outside the box. I I definitely think Meth was bad, man. Like you need to take his decisions
into account as well. You like No, of course decision to play it short every single time. Okay,
look, it might be an instruction by by the coach, but if you as you’re your decision, you are the
senior member in this squad. You’re 36 years old, you’re the oldest, most experienced player in
this squad. If you can’t make a decision on your own to hey look these short playing it short
here is creating a lot of trouble for us. If you can’t do that as the captain as the most member
of the squad then you’re at fault man. But also Khan as I said earlier like he would play it long
occasionally too which means he he certainly knows he he could do it. Uh, and ironically again, he
would only play it long when when there was no pressure on him and when he could have actually
played it short. So, like I I I agree. No, I I mean, you know, like I said, I think I should
have given him more cuz like I felt bad cuz like a few weeks ago I had him in the red when people
were like, “Oh, you’re like an okay performance.” But I cuz I get I kept getting pissed off at the
way he was losing the ball with with his passing. And so now I’m trying not to be too harsh with
that [ __ ] But like, yeah, that [ __ ] goaluck the goal. He should save that, man. That is not a
good finish. That is not a good finish. He needs to save that. Like, I’m sorry, but like if you our
best goalkeepers needs to save that. That is not a good finish by Ilkai. It’s straight at him. It It
don’t even know if I noticed it goes over him here like it skims his his chest. I think I How did
I not That should have I didn’t even give him a minus. I haven’t even thought about that. See, I’m
going only I g him so many minuses for the pass. I didn’t even think about the shot. I mean, you
should. Maybe he ended up in the red. Holy [ __ ] I have to rewatch that. It’s a I mean, he needs to
save that. I’m sorry. Like, I’m not And you guys, you know me, you know, we’ve been talking to each
other for a very long time. You don’t blame the goalies. Typically, I don’t like to blame the
goalies for, you know, conceding goals, but I’m sorry, that is not a good finish by Eel guy. Go
watch it back right now. It is not a good finish. He needs to save that. I’m sorry. That is it’s
it’s not a good finish. Like if we if we have I believe it if we have B in goal or even Hey, god
forbid Alai. I think Altay saves that cuz Altay is a good one-on-one saver. If we have Ujan in
goal, I think he saves. Like I I think I’m going to rewatch that. Watch it. Watch it right now. Go
check it out on YouTube. Just skip to that moment. Just go watch it. There’s a there’s a perfect
replay. There’s a perfect angle that they show where they they show how how [ __ ] of a finish
it really was. Like Ilkai is I believe you. That’s why I feel like I I have to give him a worse
grade. Ilkai does not put it next to him. Like he shoots it straight at him and somehow Mer me goes
down a fraction of a second too quick where where it just brushes over him. If he stays up like
0.1 second longer, it hits him and it deflects. That’s so annoying. Um, [ __ ] man. All right,
let’s let’s get back to the the chat on the screen, maybe. So, to find to to round it off. So,
I mean, not a great game. El not much involved. I think he had a couple of moments in in the air
where he did well. He had a I think Tammy wasn’t too involved. Scores a good goal, but you could
tell I think Tammy wasn’t 100%. like uh we talked about this in the previous episode. Um you know
with with shoulder issues usually are out for a couple of weeks. I don’t know about you guys.
I think Tommy played with injections in this game. He did not feel like the he did not feel his
usual self. I thought I I he probably has to like mask the pain. But I actually think that Tammy
Abraham is a best outfield player in this game or best non-defensive player. Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. our
best players, but I’d say Tammy was number number three. I think he was third. Mhm. For me, he was
our best player. Kudos as well. You thought he was better than Emiran and Djaló as well, Sinan? Yeah,
I thought for me, they were the best. I thought, like I said, like with with uh with the the
problems with Emirhan like passing the ball and giving it away at times. The thing about Tammy,
what a there’s the the warrior angle. Like this [ __ ] guy went out there with what was clearly
an injury that that Yeah. should have prevented him from playing in the first place cuz you could
tell whenever he goes up for an aerial ball. He’s coming down clutching that arm and still he wins.
Like I Khan, do you have his aerial duels up by any chance? Like I think he probably won a a
bunch of them. 0% zero. Zero out of two. Why though? Zero out of two aerials and zero out of
three uh ground duels. But this does not include like headed clearances and stuff. So like let me
have a look at maybe like headed clearances might be cuz I definitely cleared it on one corner
I think. Um but I mean look I that’s what to me kind of gave away that he wasn’t 100%. The fact
that he wasn’t really winning D. He wasn’t getting involved in Yeah. That’s right. You could tell
there was a hesitancy to go up and like get make contact people cuz you knew he was going to come
down in pain. But yeah, I mean if you look at the dangerous attacks we had in this game apart from
obviously two of our big chances were the kind of headers off the set pieces for Emiran and Bali
which the T one was more of a half chance. I would say it was a decent chance but it was harder.
The Emiran was a was 100% chance if you ask me. Tammy was involved in all of our dangerous plays.
Yeah, in this in the build up his build great link up where he put the ball down for someone to sort
of start an attack. Okay, so like there’s there’s he the the attack for that that leads to the red
card starts with him. Um obviously he scores the goal and also if you look at that that Rafa chance
that the the chance that was on the golden platter for Rafa to score to make it 2-1 that starts
with Tammy as well. He plays it into Jenis, I think. Right. Yeah. By the way, you were right,
Khan. He should have saved that. Yeah. I mean, he needs to I mean, that is I don’t I mean, he
should you know what I mean. I mean, I don’t I don’t like saying stuff on a hand, but that he he
he needs to say that. Like, guys, in the comments, go and check it out if you haven’t seen it. Let
us know what you think of that. Like, I I do not like being the guy like, “Oh, the goalkeeper
should have saved that. Beşiktaş’s keeper should save that.” But no, I’m sorry. business keeper needs
to save that. I’m sorry. That is like you’re the Turkish national goalkeeper for the last x amount
of years. Like you need to save that. That is not a good finish at all. And yeah, I don’t know. And
it’s it if you look at I I I don’t have the stats in front of me. Uh one of our mutual acquaintances
Sally was talking about it yesterday. Like if you look at the amount of shots faced, Merch has is
having a terrible season. He is he is not saving anything essentially. Like I think he had like
one game like against Kayseri. Yeah. Kayseri he had some good saves but like for the most part this
season he’s not saving much. And look like Shaktar I don’t think there’s much he could have saved
there. Like those weren’t like situations where okay the he could have made big of a difference.
the way they scored like it was all like crosses at the far post tap in like there’s not much a
goalkeeper can do it against that but like one-on- ons and stuff meth’s not not in form man and I’m
sorry at 36 years old he just officially moved into the red cuz that was he needed one negative
to go into the red and he just you just gave it to him I think he deser or I did I mean I think he
deserves it man like I mean Kartal what did you think of that goal did you think me like don’t you agree
that me should say game should definitely be doing better, man. It kind of looks like he panics as
well. Like he shuts his eyes as the ball’s going towards him. That’s what that’s I for me it’s
the look in his eyes where he’s like, “Oh my god, there he’s shooting the ball like you’re a [ __ ]
goalkeeper. What are you expecting?” I think it’s a direct result by the fact that he [ __ ] up cuz
he plays that it’s not a good pass. Look, he knows he’s to blame the first he knows he [ __ ] it.
So I I think if that would have been a different scenario where indeed he loses it coming off of
like a jello or an Emiran pass, I think Matt saves it because then I think he doesn’t have that that
hot sweat, you know, that that oh [ __ ] I [ __ ] it. Like I think that that impacts him. But he is
I mean you does does Faultm give Mer the merit for a mistake leading to a goal or is it just that
Ndidi that gets it? Because like I think they both deserve it. like me is just as much to blame
there as Ndidi is I think even Yeah. No, it does. No, it’s just indeed. Yeah. Flawed system. Flawed
system. Let’s Let’s player five Wilfred indeed made an error that led to go for That’s why we do
this [ __ ] here. That’s what we do. Let’s have a look at these stats, guys, cuz uh I think they’re
they’re quite interesting. And I’m surprising. They are telling. I mean, I am very surprised by
the gods ones. like two big chances other than their goal. What was their big chance? The Don
Sanchez head. That was a big chance. Yeah. But then but then but then we have our Rafa chance. We
have our goal and we have our two headers. Those were both of those headers were big chances
as well because UA needs to make a good save. Emirhan’s one is actually an amazing one was quite
hard man but the Emirhan one was definitely a big chance but I think the Davinson one was the best
chance of the three hitters but I do think that Emiran’s one should definitely count as a big
chance definitely and the Rafa one needs to count as a big chance and the goal is a big chance so
how yeah the Rafa one does count as a big chance K because it’s got one big chance miss so so why do
we have only two big chances there should be three it should I think it should be I think it should
be four. Honestly, I think it should be four. But okay, let’s call a three. But like, yeah, I think
if you’re calling the Davinson Sánchez one a a big chance, then you have to call those two a big
chances for us. Even if they’re not quite as big of a chance, they’re still like in the relative a
header in the box. Definitely. Yeah, the Embirhan like dude, he forced an amazing save, too. It was
probably Uran’s only real big save of the day cuz the LBL one him just made a meal out of that save.
You you know what I mean? He did one of those like floating saves a one for my dad and my my brother
cuz they came over to my house to watch ank that one dramatized it by making the big athletic
save when he probably should have been just to catch it. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, definitely. All right,
let me read these stats. Um, so Galatasaray said I had 54% of the ball to our 46. Uh, I wouldn’t be
surprised if we actually had more possession than them in the second half then cuz I know
that they dominated the first half. Yeah. Uh, we had a higher after their goal for sure. We we
I think after their goal we probably had like we had like two spells where we had the ball for
like minutes. I felt like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, and we won the XG battle 1.61 to their
1.10. And you know that that’s true with if the Galatasaray guy is compiling his stats like that.
Uh, 14 shots for them to 11 for us. Only two on target to five on target for us. And that
makes sense. They were taking a ton of shots like Lamina Sky like three. Last season they
scored that screamer from Terrera, right? So, I feel like they were just trying their luck and
then hoping it would fly in. And that’s what the that’s the only save was from a tornado screamer.
Yeah. And that’s that’s what I’m saying. Like they didn’t they didn’t create much like their two big
chances in this game. One was a header on a corner and the other one was the the one that we gifted
for them. So, if you think about it, they didn’t create a single clearcut goal scoring opportunity,
you know, from open play. Yeah. From open play. Exactly. And we we had we didn’t do much better
than that. Honestly, we only had two, but still, you know, we still we still should have [ __ ] won
this game. Really it really I I could argue that a big chance is I said that it should be three, but
it should be four cuz if Don Sanchez doesn’t foul Rafa, that’s a big chance as well. Oh man. Yeah.
Hell yeah. Yeah, for sure. Hell yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And that is like a big chance like I mean I
guess you can’t call it a big chance missed. No, you you can because the shot but really we it was
a position we created but their player had to make a real infringement to stop it from happening.
But but Katal question for you if would you have taken 2-0 or the red card there? What what do
you think would have been more influential on this game every day of the week? Yeah. I I don’t
like rivals seeing red cards excuses man. I agree. I think two I think two- nil and it’s over. I
think uh I mean it’s over is a lot to say but I don’t think Gry have it in them to score twice
in this game cuz like I’m sorry 11 versus 11 or 10 versus 11 I they they weren’t creating anything
man like just trying their luck from distance like that’s all we we did the sad is we better
man 11 v 11 than 10 Mhm. Yeah agree. Yeah. Um, continuing on down the stats. So, each missed
one big chance. We completed 325 passes at an 86% clip. They only completed 262 an 81% clip. That’s
the other way. Sorry, I did it backwards. Yeah. Whoops. Scatus and I completed 325 passes and 86%.
We only completed 262 passes at 81. That’s crazy. That’s weird. Anyway, um we committed 16 fouls
to their seven. That’s not crazy because we all know what happens in the Super League. There was
a period, by the way, where Gleed was just being allowed to do whatever the hell like after the red
card for about 40 minutes, they could just do what until they scored basically. They were allowed
to do whatever the hell they wanted. I think if if Davinson isn’t sent off, I think Osman gets a
red card for that position at the sideline there because I think that’s just, you know, like
he went so much overboard like that’s a red card and he like something very similar happened
with Quarishma uh some years back against Fenerbahçe, but you remember he got sent off for almost
the exact same thing. So it’s Yeah. Mhm. He was grabbing people by the neck. He was yelling at
the ref, cursing histrionics, being violent with like 12 different guys like, you know, I mean,
yeah, that that was insane. I haven’t ever seen a outburst like that. See, on that position, we get
penalized heavier than they do because we receive two yellows and they get the one. That’s how it’s
funny. Yeah. And our guy choked. the guy who was choked got as much of a penalty as I mean I think
choking is a little bit like exaggerated but like yeah but I don’t know man if you see I would
have thought the same like from the video but when you see the image like he’s literally like I
don’t know how airhan stops himself from punching him in the face when you see what he’s doing
the refs you know the expert refs all agreed nobody said yellow for Osiman everyone said red
couple of them said red for and a couple of them at yellow for Emiran. But it’s like it’s it’s one
of those things where like Osman like he first he kicks Uras and then he grabs him by the trove and
I think it was Bünyamin Gezer who said he should get a yellow for the kick and then he should get
and then he and then he should get a yellow for uh for that and it’s perfectly acceptable to
do that because he fall he he falls in first. That’s why he becomes hysterical and then uh yeah
I mean he should have got sent off end of the day but you know it is what it is. Beggars can’t be
choosing the referee’s being scared of sorry but I think there’s an element of the referees being
scared of Osman just because of the nine should have played. It’s not scared of Osiman so much.
I think it’s just scared of Gray. I think I think giving two red cards against Gal right that’s fan
de la it doesn’t matter if the the red cards were justified or not look at them right now in social
media their official accounts what what they’re doing like they’re trying to blame the referee
like I mean there was a point late in the game when he blew a whistle on Glattis after like they
had been doing a bunch of [ __ ] and then he it was finally got so flagrant that he had to call
it and the the glass players mobbed him. Yeah. And you could see the look on his face like [ __ ]
like I’m gonna, you know, and you know what he’s thinking about. He’s already thinking about the
tweets, the the the pre the club president and and Okan Buuk’s like after match, you know, all
that [ __ ] is already gone. All that cash. All that cash. Yeah, it’s gone. It’s gone. No, but I
think like when it comes to Fenerbahçe Galatasaray, right, like referees, um when it comes to Beşiktaş, like
they they aren’t scared to to screw us over. Um, but I mean, and look, this wouldn’t even
been screwed over. Like they for for Beşiktaş, they’re not scared to screw us over. For Galatasaray
and Fenerbahçe, they’re they’re scared to call it down the middleman cuz they know if they make a
decision that goes against Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray, whether it’s justified or not, they are going to
get mobbed by in the media and if they get if they buy some maybe lose their job, right? like that
dude who who went too far over the gladness that I land field again 100% like um yeah like you
have to do some really funny stuff to lose your job over screwing Beşiktaş and you have to have like
a history uh of doing it like you don’t look you get to be like J here you have to have like enough
credit in your bank um literally and figuratively uh anyway fouls commit we already did offsides
two to each. We had more corners than them, eight to four, which is actually kind of telling.
How about them duels, Kartal? In terms of jewels, they won 55% of them to our 45%. 44 to 36 in their
favor. Ground jewels, um 30 for them, 22 for us. So, 58% in their favor. Aerial jewels, 14 a piece,
so 50/50. successful dribbles. Seven for them at a 41% club, which makes you think they tried what
15 or 16 successful dribbles for us only four at 40%. So that would that tell you that we tried
nine yellow cards um one for them, five for us. Red cards obviously the one for Don Sanchez for
the the last man tackle on Nafas. You could argue maybe it could have been more. Definitely I think
Awesome deserved a red card. Some people saying Lumina as well for the the Tur position. Oh yeah.
I’m not so sure about that one in the air. So it wasn’t up sides though. That wasn’t definitely a
yellow. Uh but I think the ball was traveling in the air still. So they can get away with yellow
there for sure. You could give the red like but that’s all down to the interpretation of the ref.
But I don’t think but they bail. Golatus andai might get a red you know for their benefit you
know against another side. But I mean remember a couple years ago when we were in a situation where
the ball was in the air and Woros gets brought down and it’s a it should it should be a red card.
It’s so blatant and they give Woros the yellow. You guys want to get to some comments now? Yeah.
Let’s uh let’s get to the comments. I think uh maybe worth mentioning Cart, you want to you
want to do the comments? You’re good at that, Kartal. By the way, one quick one quick one.
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Grey Will said that that was so disappointing. As I said in the chat, there is no killer instinct.
They were playing like that and talking about us saying we were playing as if we were a man
down until Gas scored from ball control. So, we’ve all kind of said that through throughout the
the podcast. So, I don’t think we need to go back over that in our thoughts. I I think we, you know,
we weren’t necessarily playing like a big team, but I I think, like we said, you know, eight
new players in this lineup, a bunch of them are really, really new, like very late additions.
I think we need to give this team two to three months to mesh. They’ve had a month now. Let’s
give them I mean, I want to see after New Year in, you know, February when this when the when the
when the competition starts up again, I want to see our second half of the season. I think our
first half of the season now we’re we’re going to be kind of trying to find our way. And if we can
get through the first half of the season with 30 plus points, like 35 36, you know, creeping up
on 40, that would be fantastic. And I think we can probably with this squad and hopefully with
like one or two additions in in in in January, I I think we have it in us to go 40 plus points
with this squad. We should be able to do that and and we should be able to finish the season in the
mid70s. I think, you know, Hond, you know, I think you’re maybe even being too cautious. Sorry, I’m
here, by the way. I’m just making a coffee. Um, I think you’re maybe being too cautious in that I
feel like we could probably still gain something from this first half of the season, right? Cuz
we’re only what, like maybe a quarter through. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, but I’m just saying
like we’re already starting to find something, right? Like we had a decent September. I think all
things considered like on paper this is not a bad start to October, right? A draw on the road in a
derby again, right? Like the result felt so much worse. The result if you look at the result on
its own it’s good but come on I think. No, no, no. You pay attention. But you can’t you can’t
just But you can’t get hung up on that Doata because if you allow that to creep into your like
look as fans we can but the team can’t allow this to creep into their head like they need to build
on this now. We need to go into October it’s going to be very important. And I think that that coa
game like if we can get a win there like I think that’s you know remember like a couple weeks
ago we were saying like the Kayseri the coa game that’s like zero points maybe two points best
case scenario we’ve got three already if we can get another three and then I don’t know what
the rest of our schedule looks like in in the rest of October but like after the international
break I think on the 22nd we play against Corna uh don’t know who is after that but like we need
to gone flat yeah and we need to start we need to start building up momentum now and start build
chemistry. This team needs to come together, needs to get to know each other, start to fight for each
other. And I think that’s going to be like for me, I I I want to give them until like the second half
of the season to come into their own. I’m willing to give them some leeway until then. That’s what
I’m saying. I don’t want to be too harsh in the criticism, but I do think with the player material
that we have available to us, like they should be capable of. so much more than what we saw against
Alanya and against Göztepe and the standard the bar needs to be put higher. But I think it’s something
that we need to do systematically and and given the fact of how many new arrivals we have, I think
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in in many languages there. I can only participate in the English stuff, but anyway. Um, yeah, we
we we’re lacking the Japanese people. You need to recruit some Japanese uh fans. Yeah. Yeah. If
only we still had Kagawa. Maybe you should like, you know, for your for your school cuz you have
a lot of Japanese students, right? Like assign. Yeah, I can assign listening. Maybe maybe you
should like uh buy like like like bash like like cheap bashikes merch from from Kathy. So
like wristbands or something and like give them to the students or There you go. There you go.
All we need is like one good Japanese player, you know, and and like I wouldn’t even have to do
any work. They would just come like me. We were we were linked with uh with that Japanese player that
plays for Ren, right? Um what’s his name? Yeah. Yeah. Uh Ma, we’re linked with Nakamura. We’re
also linked with we’re also linked with Marita from Sport Lisbon as well. Morita. That’s what it
was. Yeah, Marita. Yeah, that’s right. It was Ma. That’s Ma. That’s different. Ma Celtic as well.
And apparently he’s actually Celtic’s best player, which is I find very strange then that they
would have sold him to us. But um apparently if if they signed the replacement, they would
have let him come to us. Really? I caught it. That did that that didn’t even uh that didn’t I I
was going to say that didn’t even hit hit the news but apparently it did. When did say that then?
Aan said after the window that my was someone that the president really wanted and and Celtic
would have let him go if they could have gotten a replacement because our offer was um their
offer was satisfactory apparently. Okay. Well, maybe we’ll go back in for him in uh in January
then. Who knows? Um and then then trust me, Khan, we’ll have I’ll be translating Japanese left and
right. Actually, hopefully they’ll be translating themselves and I’ll be teaching them. Um anyway,
uh I still I still have a Kagawa shirt and I’m keep I’m planning on not you know, I plan to keep
that, you know. I have a Kagawa shirt, too. I I had to get that. He had 33 goals and 11 assists
last season for Celtic. 44 goal contributions as a left winger. That is insane. Yeah. No, if we
could when we were league with him, I was like, “No, there’s no way that’s real.” He’s like legit.
I didn’t even see that, man. I That’s completely I mean to be fair after the window closed, I kind
of like for me that was it, you know? Like, okay, the window over I don’t need any more of this
[ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was I think we were all done with that by then. by like September.
Yeah. Um Yeah, that’s insane. If we could sign him, that would, man, that would be such a Yeah,
he’s not he’s not been as good this season, man. He’s only got two goals in of course he’s not been
as as good this season. He wanted to go to Beşiktaş and he didn’t uh he wasn’t allowed to go. Yeah,
they broke his heart. He wanted to go to Kagawa’s like favorite club. Yeah, exactly. Um Kart, any
other comments? Keep keep it coming. Yeah. Um, so we’ve got one from um, Sebastian Hay saying
that everyone including us has got the the Beşiktaş badge on her chest whereas Saran’s got his his own
Sy clothing line on his chest. He says it rubs him the wrong way. What What do you guys think about
that? I have a logo on my coffee cup, man. I got I don’t know, man. Doesn’t bother me. He did that in
the championship season as well, so I don’t know. Yeah, it doesn’t bother me either, to be fair. In
fact, I think he his his Sy gear is all black and white themed, I think. So, you know, well, not all
of it, but like I think it’s like black, white, and red for the for the most part, right? Like,
says he hates the short the short goal kicks. I think if you got the personnel for it, it’s
fine. Yeah, exactly. I think yeah when you’re playing against Gas who the one the sense right
isn’t a good coach the one thing he is very good at organizing is the high press and the fact that
Liverpool even struggled against their high press as well that’s true is having nightmares about
high press exactly like you say cattle if you have the if you are good at it then by all means like
do it it’s a weapon but we aren’t so we’re just crippling ourselves we’re shooting ourselves in
the Don’t get me wrong, she she probably against any other team in the league, we could probably
do just fine. But I think against Galatasaray who are known for for a very good high press, you
don’t buy that. But you say that though tornado, isn’t it? It’s tornado that little [ __ ] But
Göztepe Gusta was really effective with their high press as well. Kas Pasha in the past avoid
using it against them too. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean there’s I’m sure I’m sure Fenerbahçe if they do
it. I mean, look, I don’t think Fenerbahçe do it did it under Mourinho and maybe they won’t do it under
uh Tedesco either, but like I mean, any team that has that ability, like I think, look, you can try
it in the opening minutes of the game, if you’re noticing, look, it’s it’s leading to more trouble
than it’s worth, then just take those kicks long, like Jesus. Yeah. Like to me, I think if we do
that, I think if we make that adjustment, I think we win this game. I think that even even though
we weren’t good in this match, I I just think like just that small thing, it certainly cuts out the
one decisive mistake. It does. Exactly. And look, maybe then they they press for 10 more minutes
and find a goal on a corner. You don’t know. But I don’t think they had it in them to score from
open play at least. like the only way what pisses me off again is that the short passes were not
made when there was an act an actual opportunity for them to be made. So, if you’re going to play
that, yeah, again, right, like timing, context, and and we’re talking about Merritt, who is the
most experienced player on this team by a wide margin. A huge margin, right? Like nobody else
like he’s 10 years older than anybody else on the pitch for the most on our side anyway. Except for
what? Oh, yeah, that’s right. I forgot about he’s eight years older. I think he’s eight years older
than everyone else on the pitch except for Gan. And like Sazda is a late bloomer, you know what I
mean? Like it probably applies mentally too. No, I’m kidding. But um no, look, there’s there’s
not really an excuse for the way if if that’s how you want to play, fine. But then like why are
you kicking the ball long when you have nobody pressing you and you have your defenders asking
for the ball and then kicking it short when it’s like going to [ __ ] kill us? So yeah, I I I I
think part of it is also the application. So like people were really hard on Saran for that. And I
think you’re right. Like maybe Sarah needs to tell him more directly not to [ __ ] around with that.
But you have to at least put I want to say 50% of the blame on Merritt himself cuz like there’s
selective, right? Like there are times when he is kicking it long when he shouldn’t be. And it’s
like dude, let this is our chance to build up and like eat up some possession, right? and and
he’s not. And then Yeah. And then he gives them the goal because he needs to play it short. But
you know what? You know what the funny thing is? Like he’s he’s not good at the playing it short
from the back, but he’s also not good at kicking it. Like he’s not Togla. Togla was like the worst
goalkeeper I’ve ever seen. Yeah. Goal kicking. But like like Me isn’t good at it either, honestly.
Like and that’s like I think in the modern game the the footwork of the goalkeeper has become so
important. So if you don’t have that you need to be an extremely good [ __ ] goalkeeper on your
line man. Like if he would have saved that that that that that chance and if he would have been
like you know that’s how he makes up for it right if he’s like super authoritarian in the air and
he plucks every ball which I you know to be fair I think in this game he was he wasn’t bad yesterday.
wasn’t bad in the air. But I I think if he like does everything else right, then I can forgive
him the bad footwork. But like he he’s like in every category right now. I think he’s very mid.
Um there’s nothing to me right now that makes me an exceptional or even a good goalkeeper
at the moment. I think like he’s he’s Yeah, he’s one of our weak links right now. I think
you know and uh is he not the weak link? Is he not? Maybe at this point like I think maybe
you could say we’ve improved. I mean maybe it’s Saza. Joan Sazda is definitely a weak link as
well. I think um I think in a weird way or Yeah, I would say Rafa in a weird way. Like I think
defensively Rafa is a bit of a liability and like but obviously he brings so much offensively
that he obviously he’s not Yeah, that’s why I feel like that’s why You know, I mean, like, yeah, from
the current lineup, I think our central defenders, Mer and Sazda, I think Mer Sazda and our central
defense, I think, because Oh, left wing. We need a left wing. And the left wing for sure. Yeah, I
think you know, if we in the summer can get a new a really good new goalkeeper, a good right back.
Well, look, I mean, Tail, that’s the thing, right, with Tylen Bullet, like we have somebody there
who’s potentially good and we’re not utilizing him, which is a real real shame because, you know,
now you’re putting yourself in a position where, oh, we’re going to have to invest in that
right back position again next summer, but like maybe we don’t if Tylon is really good,
but how can we judge him if he doesn’t play? Um, and yeah, and and the less I you know, I didn’t
I haven’t had both of you here since this game uh to really run this by you guys. Do you guys
remember how Spencer played against Kais City? Yeah, it was good. Solid. Are we Are we not sure
that the best right back on the team isn’t playing right now? Defensively, he’s the best right back
for sure. I think both Tailon and and Gökhan are way better offensively, but I think in this game
in particular, if your in if your intention in this match is to sit back invite pressure, I
think you left your best option at right back on the bench, then I don’t even know if Sen was
on the bench. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Personally, Senson was good against Kayseri, but I think Kayseri
is by far the worst team played this season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s it’s fair. It’s fair, of
course. But also, especially given the the the holes in their squad that day, right? It’s
not that we didn’t have holes too. Played well against Galatasaray last season as well though. Like I
think all three games he was good. So, you know, I don’t know. Yeah. I mean, I think for me
personally, I think Tyler Bull should be playing, man. Anyway, he has to be playing. But that
that goes to Nassau’s question. Nasser says, um, what do we think about Tyler not being in the
squad again? And any thoughts on J not coming on? I mean, we we talked about that at Nauseium last
week. I feel like I don’t want to reiterate and repeat myself. I think it’s a travesty honestly.
That’s all I’m going to say. Yeah. And then we’ve had Matthew just talking a lot about the referee
as well, saying how he thought he was bad. Um he also thinks that the players were a bit like they
weren’t sharp mentally missing out runs. Yeah, that’s I I think that’s the biggest issue. Like
our players weren’t sharp enough mentally and we weren’t we weren’t convicted enough and we weren’t
going like like Tammy said, we weren’t nasty enough. We weren’t I I don’t think we were hungry
enough. I think we were too nice. Um but when it comes to the referee, you know, I’m already
happy if he doesn’t screw us. Like I didn’t think he had a great game yesterday, but he didn’t he
didn’t screw us like last I you know who was it? Was it Attila Karaoğlan? No, it wasn’t Caranes.
that’s who who was the ref last season. Like, he actively went out of his way to screw us last
season. Like, I it wasn’t that. And then I’m fine with it. I don’t need a referee to to to ref a
perfect game. I just need them to ref it down the middle and not blatantly favor one team and push
them like be like the wind in their sales like Kardesh was last season for for Gre. Like as long
as as the refs call it as as much down the middle as possible. And look, sometimes maybe it’s 5545.
That’s that’s okay. That happens. It’s football. But like there’s a difference between 5545 and and
and 7030, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Or 8020, you know. Yeah. Let’s continue with the with the comments
because it’s getting late. This kid has to go to school. Yeah. I think that like the rest of
the comments are just kind of echoing a lot of their thoughts to be honest. So I don’t think
there’s there’s much point in going over them. All right. You’re in your comment. Um you wanted
to say something. Yeah. Well, what we didn’t talk about was the leftwing thing and the uh so
a starting l we talked about starting Elbou and how I’m critical of that and I think you guys
sort of agreed with me on that. The question is, what about playing Milo Rashita over hot Silva?
Why didn’t Hot play like frankly I thought this would have been maybe a good opportunity to see
him start after he like to build on the goal he scored that that’s a puzzling decision. I would
say it is because we’re when we come back from the international break. Who do we have first?
Is it against Jeremy or Coa? I think we play Co. Okay. So I think maybe it’s SA wants to keep
Rasicha in the mix involved because he needs him because he needs him in the coa game.
But by that logic you would also think he would extend that courtesy to Svenson, right?
And he doesn’t. So it’s it’s it’s a weird one. Um maybe he just likes more but you wouldn’t
think that because no J was the first one to come on. J came on against Coil. Yeah, exactly.
And and and Jota scored against Coil as well, by the way. So, like it’s like he’s coming off
a goal and you don’t bring him in in this game and he’s known to be a very hard worker. He
he’s he’s a good finisher, good runs. Um, so I I thought it was a weird decision as well
to be honest. But like when it comes to El decision to go with him as a starter because
I think he was actually other, you know, Kartal, you said Tammy was the best one on the
front line. But I think Elilo didn’t do a lot effectively necessarily, but he won some headers.
He was a handful physically. Uh, he could run at, you know, he could try and get on the end of long
balls and he did that. And I think he was doing a lot of dirty work in that regard. And he’s
probably from the wingers we have available. I think he he suits that uh profile the most more
so than Rasicha more so. And don’t get me wrong, like Jotai and Rasicha are also known for tireless
work and and running and all that kind of stuff and and getting, you know, maybe going after
those seemingly lost balls, but I think that um Edal has the athleticism and on top of that
he has the aerial ability as well and like I think C you mentioned he won some aerial so
he did he won. So I think he was the outlet for that in this in this particular game. I think
going with Elba was the right choice. But yeah, the the decision to bring in Rasicha over Ja was
a bit puzzling but not egregious either. I think, you know, we need to also keep in mind that
game coming up against Coa. And uh I’d love to I mean this we’ll we’ll discuss this during
the the postgame sherly episode I guess but like uh very interesting to I’m very interested in
seeing who the players are going to be that we can’t use in that game cuz I mean is there
anyone that came before the coa game that wasn’t there yet in the Kayseri game that you guys can
think of like Djaló maybe Djaló I think LB today maybe no I don’t think so I think only Djaló
And I’m not even 100% sure on that one. Yeah, cuz I didn’t even think Ndidi was there in time
for Kayseri. So, that was a nice little surprise. But yeah, and he was definitely the question.
What was the question? Which player that Who was there? Who arrived? Who came between Kayseri
and Ka originally that would be able to play that couldn’t against Kayseri? Jalo, I think, right? I
think. No, no, I think No, no, no. Jalo, man. It’s only Thailand. Rudan and Thailand. That’s it. I
think Djaló came the same time as Ridan did. No, he didn’t. No, no, J. Djaló came after Ti. Oh,
did he? Maybe Rvan plays as a right back. Yeah, who knows? By the way, I just want to say
officially Fenerbahçe drew against Samson, which means that A, if we win the game in hand,
we are level on points with Fenerbahçe. And B, if Yasin, if you’re listening out there, you
predicted Samsung’s collapse this season uh because they were playing in Europe. And I’d
just like to say that I disagreed with you and Samsung is keeping it up. But also, but they
have played one league stage game though to be fair. I know. I know. I’m just kidding. Also,
it’s too early to say. But it’s just worthifi I think it was Karabuk sport when they were
in Europe like they had actually some good qualifiers and stuff and that really cost them
in the in the league. But Samson Sport probably have a little bit of a more better balance squad.
And I, you know, I think a little more depth, I guess. I don’t think there’s going to be a full-on
collapse for Samson Sport this season, but yeah, we’ll see. I mean, so far so good. It’s a it’s
a good result for us. It’s a good result that they draw. Um, obviously for the championship,
it’s it’s it’s not because, you know, I think we already know who’s going to win it this season and
it’s not going to it’s going to be like it’s not going to be an interesting title fight. We could
have made it somewhat interesting with a win, but unfortunately we didn’t. Um, maybe we still
can con. Don’t give up hope. Don’t do it. We There they still Maybe we’ll beat him on the back end,
you know? Who knows? I mean, maybe their their Champions League schedule drags them down. Maybe
they like I mean, there was a PSV last season. They were like in a in a situation where they
were like it looked like they were going to win it with like a mile ahead. They were scoring
so many goals. their plus differential that, you know, the plus goal differential was massive.
Uh, and then all of a sudden they collapsed and they almost gave it away at the end of the season
to Ajax and then they they still wanted because Ajax actually fumbled it at the end. So, who
knows? Maybe we almost gave up our last title run to them. So, you know, things crazy things
happen. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe. But, I mean, at the moment, it looks like it’s going to be an
even more Yeah. Boring season for the championship than it was when Trabzon won it. and Trazone was
like, you know, they were so far ahead, you know, I think the last 10 or so games like they they
only won like two or three and they still won it comfortably. I think it’s going to be it’s
probably going to be something like that. And you know what I the my biggest regret other than
the fact that we didn’t beat them just, you know, for the fact beat them, but also is like I have
this anxiety where they’re going to cuz they did it last season, man. They went unbeaten for
so long and if it wasn’t for us beating them, they would have been uh unbeaten champions,
invincible. Oh, you had that same thought. See, I didn’t even want to say it. I didn’t want
to just I just I just get I just wanted to get Yeah. I wanted to get it out of the way cuz
otherwise I’m going to have this [ __ ] anxiety the entire [ __ ] season that they’re going to
keep, you know, like I just want to see them lose. I don’t give a [ __ ] who beats them. I
just want to see them lose. If they lose once, I don’t give a [ __ ] anymore, you know, but they
need to lose. Exactly. And uh I just, you know, part of me part of me hopes that if they’re going
to run away with the championship that, you know, they’re going to get so complacent towards the
end that they’re going to lose a couple of games because, you know, they they can’t be bothered to.
Yeah. Exactly. So, or I mean obviously obviously they have to come to our stadium still and I think
if anyone’s going to beat them this season, it’s going to be us because Yeah. Fen don’t look like
they’re Yeah, I don’t know what Fen is going to do this season, man. I think they’re I I at this
point it doesn’t even look like they’re going to finish top top three, I think. Like I don’t know.
No. Yeah, they’re they’re struggling. By the way, how great was Tammy’s goal celebration where he
like points like I I I wonder what he was saying, but like we own this place or we’re we even got
you here, you know? I want to know what he was saying. Yeah. Yeah. I love Tammy, man. Like uh I
do too. I really There’s there’s some haters out there. mentality is he’s he’s he’s certainly
not the most lethal striker, but he works his ass off and he is so good in the buildup. He’s
a he’s a he’s a wonderful target, man. And look, I you know, you all you guys all know I’m a huge
Paul onu fan and look, he’s lighting [ __ ] up at Traps and I think on the watch is probably going
to be the top scorer this season. Uh and he’s a fantastic fantastic goal scorer. But um yeah, I’m
very happy with Tamina. Like you know, I would have taken on a Wu, you all know that. I love an
I think he’s a great striker but and he’s a better goal scorer than Tammy probably but you know
Tammy’s a fantastic target man I’m not going to complain about him man and younger right Tammy’s
a few years younger so oh yeah he’s three years younger I think than on the white shoe officially
at least so you know we don’t yeah just we’ve had some last minute comments in so Min are the
president of Samsung and okated because the two of them do nothing but pitch all the They both fans
can actually supposedly they did get [ __ ] out of a Excuse me again, but they did get screwed out of
a penalty position is what I heard. I don’t know if they got screwed out of it. I didn’t see it,
but the V over I didn’t either. Obviously, but I mean look, the players need time to jail, but with
a game every week, Sans’s got to find his best 11 and fast. With the squad, we’ve got top three or
better should be the bare minimum. Like, I agree, man. And and I think he is finding that best team.
I think he actually has found it already. Although I’d maybe make a couple of changes. I think
he’s found his best team. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I need I need an extra winger in there. Please.
I Please. There. Give me a put in hot with with Ole you pro. I think with Ole you would have had
the baked in advantage of that. He’s been working with the squad for a longer time and even though
there’s a lot of new arrivals, I think he would have found his his team quicker. Um, but you know,
I mean, at the moment, you know, with with the the trajectory that Fenerbahçe’s going at and I think
with Fenerbahçe, with their stakes being so high, like it’s it’s make or break for them. You know, it’s
championship or nothing. So, I think for them, despite the fact that I they they definitely
have like the second best squad in the league, I could see them derail. And if they’re going
to keep on going the way they’re going, like, I think second place is up for grabs. So, we need
to be better. We need to get better. we need to start picking up steam and like there’s no reason
why we shouldn’t be aiming for second place and of course you know Gustavon they’re all doing great
and um you know it’s not going to be easy but you know I think if Fen can’t get second then if we
can’t get second then that’s our failure you know yeah I agree with that at least third I mean it’s
so sad that we’re that we’re talking about that. I mean, it’s so sad that that everyone’s competing
for second place right now. It’s so sad. Really? Yeah. But you look at the economic imbalance.
If we actually didn’t [ __ ] it yesterday, man, we could have been dreaming of different things,
but yeah. Um I mean, still even then, we probably shouldn’t be, but like Yeah. We shouldn’t be like
I think like last year when we started Julie Good, we were all thinking about the championship.
Maybe CN actually tempered his expectations. Um but this year I don’t think there’s been a point
where I thought oh we win. Um I was always kind of thinking top try and get close to Gas and
F’s probably probably realistic. Then I said I’m saying possibly second if Russia crashing
B or if transfers were very good. I don’t think your later transfers were as good like in terms of
like I was expecting like we were expecting a good left. I mean, I think we’ve got a very good left
wer. I think we’ve got perhaps a decent player in John Silva, but A, he’s not really left winger.
B, he’s not really that kind of Well, we need to see more of I think we’re writing him off too
soon. Yeah, exactly. I think you’re I’m not saying Yeah. I’m not saying he’s going to I’m not saying
he’s he’s [ __ ] [ __ ] but I’m just saying that when we were expecting a superstar, a very good
player that we built up the whole song built up to that and it was a um it was an anticlimax. I don’t
think he’s it was but like at the end of the day, I don’t think we can judge him yet. I mean, he’s
played a lot of his career at left wing. So, even that like I don’t think you can say, “Oh, he’s not
a left winger.” Well, I mean, he’s he’s clearly a winger. I mean, so I think we need to wait and see
a little bit before we pass judgment on him. And it goes the same for everyone like Černý, Jenis,
everyone, you know, we have to wait and see, man. I mean, Jadden Sancho has so far played three
games for Aston Villa, hasn’t done anything. So, like no goals, no assist, 6.7 average rating. Um,
you know, I think we’re even being hard on Sazy, man. We have been Yeah, I mean, I think we are
being hard on Sazi. He wasn’t bad yesterday. No, but but I also think he had a bad game. He he
just I mean beaten three times by by one. Yeah, but against ghost he was like getting beaten three
times from Barış Alp like like that’s like saying I mean look okay Barış Alp is not quarishma but
like if if like if you’re playing prime bishes in mid 201 you know 2010s and you’re up against
quaresma as as a fullback like you’re going to get beat you know like I think Gökhan Saza he for
the player he is for him to get beat three times in the game against Paris who Paris who was very
strong physically like it’s that’s not like I feel like you’re making too big of a deal out of that
like I don’t think and also cartel I can show you I was even thinking of doing this of of because
you know sometimes by the way this is actually maybe a great moment to remind everyone um check
out the group chat right there QR code but yeah in the group chat while I do my rewatch I typically
kind of have a back and forth with whoever’s awake at that point uh and I and I’ll sometimes even
like film little highlights and put them in there just to be like, “Wow, did you guys see this?” I
was going to put in a couple where Saza actually cuz I I was very critical of his performance, but
then there were these moments where he like stood up V alumas physically. I was like, damn, he did
that. I didn’t even notice that during the game. Yeah, I don’t know if this might be a
lot to ask and might be a lot of work, but I think if you could do that like after a game
and make that like a Patreon exclusive thing and just like snippets. Yeah, take out snippets and
talk about those moments and put that on obviously don’t put it on YouTube, but put that on Patreon.
I think that would be a a great reason for people to subscribe to Patreon and b I think it would
be some really amazing extra content, but I don’t know how much time would c get into that. So like
if you if you’re up for that. Yeah, it would be difficult. It would be tough, but I’d like to
be able like cuz I I want sometimes when I am surprised by individual performances, I actually
want to take out like I remember like Felix had a good game when everyone was saying he was bad and
I wanted to take all these moments where he was like winning aerial duels and like doing like nice
linkup play just just to sort of like back up what I was saying. But it was like I started like I I
think I I took like five or six clips to start and it just like each one takes memory and you have
to move it from like the phone to the to WhatsApp and then I have to download to my computer. So it
was all but like I would like to do something like that at some point somehow. You know perhaps like
the next time there’s like a a controversial match I’ll I’ll start I’ll take out snippets to to sort
of make my point or something like that. Yeah. I’d like is this a screen record or are you like
filming your screen? What are you doing? Uh what when in WhatsApp I’ll just like record my TV like
Okay. Like just put my phone up on it. If you’re watching it on your phone like I don’t know about
what what phone do you have? Do you have a an iPhone or do you have Yeah. No, I I have a I have
a Pixel but I can do an easy record, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I But yeah, but usually it’s
cuz I watch on my TV so Yeah. No, I get that. Now that B and USA is being difficult about uh putting
up the match replays, lazy, man. You just need to you just need to pull the trigger and get the dig
digit play, man. Like if I were you, I downloaded it cuz today for the glasses that I thing, I had
to get savvy with trying to find a replay. And um or you know today last night late last night
but um how did you Yeah like I downloaded DigiTurk to my smart TV and I was like I was like oh
there it is there’s the 90minute match I could just rewatch it. If only I had a subscription I’m
honestly considering making sometimes they take a while as well man to put that stuff up like like
I don’t know like I don’t think they like they definitely don’t have like a 24-hour turnover all
the time for sure. like derby matches maybe, but like other games I feel like sometimes it can take
them a couple of days. I’m actually going to check to see if and connect put it up yet cuz yeah,
they’ve gotten really lazy with it in general, but do we have any more uh comments we need to
get to or can we uh call quits? It’s 10:00 so 10 that’s cannot help. All right, well wrap it up.
Uh thank you everyone for tuning in to the Black Eagles podcast. Let us know in the comments if you
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at the end of the day like we do this as like this is a hobby essentially for us. Um, so yeah, I
mean time considerations. Yeah. Yeah. This time considerations stuff like that. Um, also I do want
to extend uh if there’s anyone out there who is super enthusiastic about Beşiktaş, who is techsavvy,
maybe knows a thing or two about YouTube shorts, all that kind of stuff, and you’re willing to
you’re up to tactical analysis, you want to join the team, you want to create some content, uh
whether it’s for Patreon and and the members or you want to maybe do some other stuff, you want
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two videos and then it’s too much work. Don’t need that either. If you’re interested, we don’t
need that. Re reach out reach out. Uh anyway, thank you everyone for watching. Uh let’s not
forget we have an international break now, so things are going to be a little bit quiet. I have
um I’m planning on doing something for the the Black Eagle stories soon. Oh, I think that might
have been today actually. [ __ ] I think I totally spaced on that. Um I was going to I’m going to
do a Black Eagle stories with Nathan hopefully. Uh hey Nate. And I obviously there’s more people
uh who have a in the group chat if like if you want to tell your story how you became a Beşiktaş fan,
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then we can get working on that. And uh Nate, if that was supposed to be today, I am so sorry,
but I have a Yeah, I totally spaced on that. I think it was today. I just need to check, but
I’ll check it after. Anyway, thank you very much. I’m going to hand the microphone over to my
co-host, Mr. Seshworthy. Uh before I close out um I should mention the standings for our um top fans
of the day. Number one, the not sporting director Sebastian Heinth. Number two, Murder Merritt Long
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of sorts, Blaco, the the giftgiver. Um, yeah, man. I think it’s important that I mention before we go
into international break, in case anyone forgets, let’s go dash. Peace out, everybody. Let’s
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Nasty. What is it? Nate Dog. Mr. Baseball Davis Finnish. Not the Swedish kebab. Tristan Herky
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The Istanbul Derby ended all square as Galatasaray 1-1 Beşiktaş — a result that leaves The Black Eagles frustrated after failing to capitalize on a man advantage for over an hour.
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⚡ Despite going down to 10 men, Galatasaray pressed hard and found an equalizer through İlkay Gündoğan after a mistake from Mert Günök and Wilfred Ndidi
😱 Rafa Silva missed a golden late chance to seal Beşiktaş’ first away win at Galatasaray’s ground in 8 years
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