2025 年のトップ 30 パッカーのランキング!!!

2025 年のトップ 30 パッカーのランキング!!!

[Music] What is up everybody? Welcome in to an all new episode of the Packaday podcast. I’m your host Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter, Andy Herman NFL, and of course you can find the podcast. As I mentioned yesterday, training camp coming up. We’re going to be doing a lot of live shows, immediate reactions to training camp. Of course, training camp reviews every single morning. Ross Uglam’s probably going to have some more stuff. So, make sure you are subscribed. following notifications are on. Put the uh push the little bell on YouTube. Make sure episodes are automatically downloading on your iPhone or your Android or whatever the heck it is that you are using. We appreciate that a ton. It really helps us out and it makes sure that you don’t have to count on the algorithm either and that all of that stuff is coming to you guys organically. We appreciate that a ton. Uh we today have finally made it. We’re going to be going over players 30 through1. We’ve been ranking the Packers from number 90. They still have one more open spot on their roster. I’m assuming they’ll fill that right before training camp. But from number 90 to number one, I’m going to quickly break down from 90 to 61 and then 60 through 31 that we’ve done the last two days so we can kind of get you caught up really quick. If you haven’t checked out those episodes yet, make sure to do so. And then we’re going to be going from 30 to 1 today. So, episode one from 90 to 61 was Alex Hail, Keith Randolph, Johnny Lumpin, Isaiah Dunn, Brandt Banks, Sam Brown Jr., JJ Lippy, Cameron Young, Kazir Brown, Trey Hill, Desalyn Alexander, Jaylen White, Neesa Jade SA, Tyron Herring, James Esther, Amar Johnson, Cornelius Johnson, Gregory Jr., Jonathan Baldwin, Tyler Cooper, Nazir Stacos, Messias Swinson, Jaman Johnson, Julian Hicks, Taylor Algresma, Sean Clifford, Omar Brown, Aaron Mosby, Christian Welch, and Kalin King. Second episode was numbers 60 through 31. John Fitzpatrick and Ben Sims, John Williams, Donovan Jennings, Micah Robinson, Travis Glover, Kadim Telford, Matt Orez, Malik Keith, Bo Melton, Kamal Haden, Jacob Monk, Tyron Hopper, Daniel Whan, Micole Hardman, Isaiah Simmons, Warren Binsen, Colby Wooden, Colin Oliver, Kingsley and Ibari, Baron Serell, Brettton Cox Jr., Chris Brooks, Emanuel Wilson, Zayn Anderson, Katano Adapo, Seavon Williams, Anthony Belton, Isaiah McDuffy, and number 31 was Luke Musgrave. And that brings us today to numbers 30 through number one. Really excited to go through this. Of course, as always, we’ll be interested on your take. What What did I get right? What did I get wrong? These are difficult lists to put together. As I mentioned on our first episode, you are there’s no lifeline, right? This is your list. We all are going to disagree on different values. You could look at this with different viewpoints. I know Bill Huber’s list is the most important 90 players for 2025. Mine’s just ranking them from best to or from worst to best, I guess, from 90 to one. So, again, we all look at this a little bit differently, but I think it’s a fun exercise nonetheless. So, let’s kick things off right away with number 30. I’m going Marshon Lloyd here. And this is maybe a little bit, you know, I don’t even know if I want to say wishful thinking because I think wishful thinking he’d even be higher on this list, but we have very little to go off of with Marshon Lloyd’s career so far. But we know he’s incredibly talented. Multiple draft nicks had him as the best running back in the 2024 NFL draft, including Daniel Jeremiah. I thought he at times in training camp in 2024 looked like the best running back on the roster. And I do think he has the ability to bring a real spark to this offense and Matt Laflur has echoed that as well when talked about adding playmakers to this team. He unprompted brought up Marshon Lloyd also. So this is somebody that has the ability to get the ball in his hands and make something spectacular happen. He’s going to have to stay healthy, which was a roller coaster of nightmare emotions in 2024 with appendicitis and about 4,000 other things that went wrong for Marshon Lloyd. just could never get on the field, could never get healthy. Hopefully, he used all of his injuries up in 2024 and now for the rest of his career, he’s just insanely healthy. Pass protection, hanging on to the football or issues in his college career. Those are things that he’s going to have to clean up as well. But if he is, as advertised, if he’s as good as he looked in training camp in 2024, he can be a weapon within this offense and one that I am extremely excited for and hoping we get to see a lot more of in 2025. Number 29 is a really interesting player to try and rank, and that’s Carl Brooks, the defensive tackle. If you put him 10 spots lower on this list, could probably understand that argument. If you put him a handful of spots higher, could understand that as well. 2023, he flashed some real upside as not only a pass rusher, but somebody that just could penetrate into the back field and cause chaos. This was somebody that I thought Green Bay found a real hidden gem, not only when they drafted him, but then certainly what he followed it up with through the course of the regular season in 2023. 2024 just never quite felt the same as it was with so many of the sophomores last year. Luke Musgrave, Jaden Reed, Dantavian Wixs, Carl Brooks, we can go on and on. It was just that way for a lot of players. Even LVN was worse in 2024. So that that class, the class that is now in their third year, which includes Carl Brooks, we need to see them not only get back to where they were as rookies, but hopefully surpass that in their third year. It didn’t work that way in 2024. Carl Brooks is one of those where if he takes that step, I think you found again a real gem here and somebody that can really impact the game in a positive way for Jeff Hley’s defense. The interesting thing is if you would have asked me of all the players that were kind of carried over from Joe Barry’s defense into Jeff Hafley’s who might fit the back, I would have put Carl Brooks pretty high on that list that he was going to make more of a seamless transition. Didn’t exactly work that way. Still think there’s a lot of talent and potential there, but we’re going to need to see that from Carl Brooks this upcoming season. This another really interesting one at 28. And if you want to put him higher because of the importance as I know Bill Huber did or lower because he just hasn’t shown anything really through two years, I would totally get it as well. I’m putting LVN here at 28. And this probably meets it somewhere in the middle of his importance and his upside and his talent would be well above number 28 on this list. His expectations based on what he’s done in his first two years of his career would probably be lower than this on the list. So, I think this is probably meeting somewhere in the middle. I think this is a fair overall ranking for LVN. There are very few X factors on this team that are as important as what LVN will or will not give Green Bay this upcoming season. Man, if he takes a step and adds a real legitimate pass rusher opposite Rashan Garry, this defense just takes, I think, a pretty significant step in a very positive direction. And if all of a sudden LVN just doesn’t develop, he’s a true bust. Doesn’t work out worse than Nick Perry. More in the Jamal Reynolds sort of category. I don’t think it’s going to get that bad. I really don’t. I I think, you know, it could be worse than Nick Perry. Maybe more on like u uh who was the uh the edge rusher that played uh defensive tackle and defensive end, the the former second round pick. Um man, that is going to bother the heck out of me. So now I have to look it up. I know it’s Neil and I can’t remember the entirety of the name for some reason which is really really stupid of me. Um, wow. It was really back a farther away than I was expecting. Mike Neil. Mike Neil. That kind of sums up the Mike Neil experience in and of itself. But I I could see it being more in that Mike Neil category where couple plays here and there, good effort, set the edge a little bit, but just never gave you anything that you were really wanting, expecting, hoping for, etc. That that to me is probably more where the trajectory is. Not as bad as Jamal Reynolds. Don’t even think it’s necessarily as good as Nick Perry right now, which would be a disappointment in and of itself. Not even anywhere near Rashan Garry and far ways away from Klay Matthews. I think he’s more in that Mike Neil territory. I don’t want him to stay in Mike Neil territory. That’s not a great place to be. So, at minimum, hopefully good Nick Perry, and I would love if he took that third-year jump like Rashan Garry did. We’ll see. It it is uh it is a I’ll believe it when I see it sort of thing right now with LVN. I I’m I think I’m again kind of in the middle with most Packer fans of I’m not expecting a real breakout here. Man, do I hope I’m wrong. But I also don’t think he’s bad. I don’t think he’s this terrible edge where if he’s on the field, you’re like, “Oh, get him off the field.” I think I’m somewhere in the middle of those two things. Again, kind of the Mike Neil experience, right? But I’m hoping for a lot more for him and if it does happen, it would be a huge boost for this Packers defense. Number 27, I’m going Javon Bullard. And I I think I’m higher on Javon Bullard than most. I think he has the ability to be a very good safety. I don’t know if he’s going to get that opportunity with both Xavier McKenna and Evan Williams patrolling the back end of the defense. I am I never was. If you go back to uh listen to my scouting report, my personal scouting report on Javon Bullard, a lot of people Adam is one of the best slot players in that draft. I’ve never been a true believer in Javon Bullard, the slot player. So, this is a interesting, bizarro, no man’s land to be in for me personally because I’m higher on him as a player than I think most. I think he has to play a safety, but I don’t think he’s going to play safety. But I don’t really like him a ton as a slot guy. But let me add one more layer onto that. I do think there’s an avenue for him to play in the slot on earlier downs, more obvious rundowns, 12 personnel downs. I think a big nickel with him in there is workable. I just really don’t want to see Javon Bullard in the slot on obvious passing downs. And the great news is I don’t think he needs to be utilized in that way. I think you have obvious passing downs for Valentine and Nixon on the outside with Hobs in the slot. That should very clearly be your obvious passing down nickel defense. If we get to the point, and it could easily be this way with one injury where you’ve got two corners and Bullard in the slot on obvious passing downs. I have a bit more concern in that situation. But I still think he’s a very good player. I think he’s very motivated to be a great player. I loved him coming out of college and I think he’s still going to take a pretty big step in year two. Number 26 is another one that’s very very interesting to rank. I’m going Malik Willis here and this is like an interesting one where this might seem high for Malik Willis. Is he really the 26th best player on the Packers? Man, that dude went out and really significantly helped Green Bay win three games in 2024. If that’s Shawn Clifford, if that’s heck, if if if Tennessee traded us either of their other two quarterbacks, if that’s Will Levis or Mason Rudolph, I don’t think Green Bay’s in the playoffs. I really don’t. I think Malik Willis had a huge say in winning those three games against Tennessee, Indianapolis, and Jacksonville this past year. And here’s the thing with Willis. I give Matt Laflur, Adam Stenovich, that entire offense so much credit for how they were able to structure that offense with Malik Willis. They in an extremely short period of time with him not even being on the roster a few weeks prior built a really remarkable offense that fit Malik Willis perfectly. There’s no question about that. This was a offense where Malik Willis was legitimately set up for success in a significant way. All of that being said, you still have to go out there and execute. And every time Malik Willis was asked to make a big third down throw, a red zone play, a keeper on a read option, whatever that thing was, when he needed to make a play in those three games, he made it almost every single time. He took unbelievable care of the football and he again when was tasked with whatever he needed to be whether it was a runner, a passer or anything in between, he took care of it. And not only that, his ability to run that offense. Even just the spinner series stuff that they did with Jacobs and him and the receivers, like there’s a lot that goes into that. He learned this playbook like on the fly coming over from Tennessee. It was a remarkable job by everyone. But Malik Willis deserves a ton of credit. I think he’s very accurately ranked here at number 26 on this list. All right, number 25, Jordan Morgan. There’s a little bit of a, you know, sort of upside first round pick bias here, but as I’ve been talking about, I think Jordan Morgan’s going to be a good solid offensive lineman. There’s always going to be people who are disappointed in that. But the first round pick, only got a good solid offensive lineman. Green Bay usually does that in the fourth or fifth round, whatever. Uh, good solid offensive linemen are good to have. Maybe they overdrafted him, maybe they didn’t. We’ll end up finding out. I don’t think we can really glean anything from 2024 because even when he was in there, he was dealing with that shoulder issue that just kept coming up over and over and over again. I will say I think coming out of training camp, he was probably set up to win the starting right guard spot. I think he was going to start over Shawn Ryan. I really do. And then injuries kind of derailed that in camp and never really got healthy. He’s going to be healthy in 2025 or at least start out that way. Hopefully it stays that way. And I don’t I don’t even care if he starts out as the sixth offensive lineman. That ends up being the case, so be it. If it’s Walker, Banks, Jenkins, um, and then Ryan, and Tom from there, that’s totally fine. He’s going to end up playing this year. Green Bay is going to have injuries along the offensive line. His versatility is massive. I think you’re going to see a really solid performance from Jordan Morgan this upcoming season. 24, appropriately, is Carrington Valentine. Man, I like Carrington Valentine. I know we’re going to have uh recency bias with that play against Dallas Goddard in the playoffs. He has the ability in my opinion to be a much bigger playmaker than what he’s seen what we’ve seen from him on the field so far in camp and in pre I shouldn’t say preseason, but in training camps and in practices. This is a player that consistently makes some pretty big plays. He’s got a really great mind and instinct for the position of corner. And I just think as he gains more and more confidence and plays more and more reps, I think you’re going to see him take off even more. I would not be shocked if we saw a pretty sizable step from Carrington Valentine just getting the opportunity being the legit, you know, we’ll see. But I think at least nickel corner if they want to go big on base downs with Bullard in the slot with Hobs and uh Nixon on the outside that could happen. But I still think Valentine’s going to play a ton. And I think with that in his third year with a bit more confidence, also knowing that if he has a big year, he’s going to be able to go into next off season, you know, kind of looking for that contract as he goes into his his contract year. I think Valentine’s in for a big season and I think he uh not only is very important to this team, but I think he could be the one that if you’re concerned about the corner position, if he takes that jump, I think all of a sudden you you feel much better about that corner position. Number 23, I’d probably have him higher than he should be. I’ll readily admit that. It was a rough 2024. I’ll readily admit that as well. I’m still going Dantavian Wix here. Here’s the thing with Wix. I get the drops. It was completely unacceptable in 2024. There’s no two ways around it. I I I hope I can’t imagine that it’s that bad in 2025. Even the second half of 2024 was better from Dantavian Wixs. In 2023 was legitimately really, really good. I’m hoping that first half of last season was just a blip on the radar. I hope he’s really taking this, you know, Devonte Adams comparison to heart and that his second year with all the drops had everyone upset just so he can have a massive breakout in his year three season. The thing with Wix is that he’s a really tenacious and aggressive blocker and that’s going to get him reps. The other thing about Wix is that dude knows how to get open. There is nobody on this Packers receiving court. We’ll see if Golden or Savon Williams can do it, but that has been here already that gets open at the level that Dantavian Wixs does. In fact, there are few in the NFL. He consistently finds ways to gain separation. Just got to catch the ball, my man. Just catch the ball and you are a stud. It is the the one a thing at the position of being a receiver is you actually do need to receive and catch said ball. man, if he just gets past the most basic principle and property of the position, I think he can be an absolute stud. But as I mentioned, it was at an unacceptable level this past year. Cannot happen again in 2025. And if it does just clean itself up and he plays much better from a peer receiving standpoint, you’re going to see Dantavian Wixs much higher on this list in 2026. I am so happy about 2022 on this list, and that’s Brandon McManis. I I I’m so glad we don’t have a kicking competition, that we’ve got a chart through training camp. I’m so glad that we don’t have to be like, “Oh god, Anders Carlson’s coming up. Just close your eyes and pray.” Um I’m just very happy that you have an experienced veteran kicker on this team. There’s no guarantee. Kickers go through crazy highs and lows. You never know what’s going to happen in any given season at that position. But I just know that going into the year, I feel a billion percent more comfortable with Brandon McManis uh going out there to kick and, you know, hopefully being able to make his big kicks. I know he missed the one in the playoffs, but he was outstanding prior to that for Green Bay and hopefully that’s what we see again this upcoming year. 21 is going to be a controversial one almost no matter where you put him on this list. That’s Keshan Nixon. I don’t know. Just similar to how they don’t really have a number one wide receiver. I don’t think they have a true number one corner, but if they do, it it kind of is Keshan by default. He’s not my number one corner on this list, but he’s probably going to get some pretty key assignments. We’ll see if they kind of just play side by side or if they do move these players around at corner. Listen, we know he has special teams ability. We don’t know if he’s going to get out there at kick returner. I will say the last two years have been not as great as a returner as his, you know, all proseason a couple years ago. Um, or at least last year wasn’t. I am I am hopeful that Keshan Nixon found his spot on the outside. I talked about this uh the other day, but 23 and 24 I think I had almost like a negative five grade on Khan or negative four point something grade on Keshan Nixon. In last year from like week five on when he was playing in the slot, it was plus one point something. It was a night and day difference. A massive negative in the slot over a little over a year period of time and almost a full year of just on the outside was a a legitimate solid positive grade for him. if that’s just who he is moving forward. He is a good outside corner. I think his ball skills at the point of attack still need to improve a little bit. But you just don’t bet against Keshan Nixon. Every single time that you bet against him, he finds a way to improve himself. He he’s not going to make it in the NFL. He’s an undrafted guy. Made it three years with the Raiders. All right. Nothing super fancy about it. Doesn’t get anything on the open market. Green Bay signs him for a vet minimum one-year deal. finds a way not only to make it as a first team allpro kick returner, but finally makes himself into the starting lineup as a corner as well. I that’s great, but slot corner is not going uh very well. All right, we’ll move him to the outside and he becomes a legitimately solid to good corner. You know, if if you’re saying like, yeah, well, he can’t be a Pro Bowl corner. Just keep betting against this guy and he keeps finding ways to kind of prove everyone wrong. Hopefully he does and he continues to do so and continues to find an upward trajectory even at the corner position and that would certainly be a big win for Green Bay this upcoming year. Next up, another interesting one. Rasheed Walker. I really like Rasheed. I really do. I think he’s a good starting left tackle. He’s got a battle on his hands. This could be somebody that ends up being like the 40th or 50th if Jordan Morgan just wins the left tackle job and Rasheed Walker’s on the bench as a swing tackle. And man, would that cost him millions upon millions of dollars in free agency this next year. Rasheed has about 24 million reasons per year to go out and have the best season of his career. We’ve talked about it. Dan Moore got over 20 million per year from the Tennessee Titans coming over from the Pittsburgh Steelers this past year. And in my opinion, Rasheed is just better than Dan Moore. Now, maybe somebody doesn’t give the the Tennessee Titans deal here and they look at that and be like, “Yeah, we’re not going to do that again.” But if Dan Moore got over 20 million, Rasheed Walker should get over 20 million. And that that’s a interesting position for him to be in. Go out and dominate, my friend. And you could get be getting in that 23 24 mil per year category from some team, whether it’s Green Bay or somebody else. So, he has every reason to be ultra motivated to go out and win that starting left tackle job and play the best football of his career. And if we do, I think we’re going to see the best season yet for Rasheed Walker in 2025. Number 19 is a player that I liked on the offensive line just a little bit more than Rasheed Walker this past year. That’s Shawn Ryan. I think you can make an argument that Walker is maybe a little bit more important, the more premium position, but listen, every offensive line position is basically a premium position. Now, if you have one week link, you’re going to get exposed. I thought Shawn Ryan over his three-year NFL career so far has maybe been the player that has taken the most significant jump year-over-year over the past three seasons. You’re going from somebody who came in as a third round pick and was an utterly disgusting bust in year one. came in out of shape, never got himself out of being anything other than the 53rd player on a 53man roster that had basically no opportunity to even get active on game days and then got suspended at the end of the year. It was a disastrous first year for Shawn Ryan. Followed it up in year two with the ability to go in that platoon with John Renan Jr. by the end of the year, which I think those reps were massively important for him being the starter in year three. And while there were still some up and down moments and some volatility from week to week, he ended up still being a high plus two something player on my grades last year and was a real net, you know, positive for the team overall. I really liked what I saw to Shawn Ryan. And if he for the, you know, what, fourth consecutive year or I guess third consecutive year takes a jump, man, he he could turn himself into a Pro Bowl guard. I really truly believe that. Not to mention that he’s in the same situation as Rasheed in a contract year and has probably 15 million reasons per year uh to go out and have a massive season. So very excited to see Shawn Ryan this upcoming year as well. Hey friends, I’m so excited to tell you about this new game-changing product that I’ve been using before a big night out. It’s called pre-alcohol. Now, Zebiotics pre-alcohol prebiotic drink is the world’s first genetically engineered prebiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Here’s how it works. When you drink, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It’s a buildup of that byproduct, not dehydration that’s to blame for rough days after drinking. Pre-alcohol produces an enzyme to break this byproduct down. 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I did think he had a couple rookie moments in mini camp, although I also thought that he looked apart in mini in OTAAS prior to that. I think this is somebody that can come in and step in right away and make an impact. I think his speed, his route running, the pacing within his routes, I think it’s all there for him. I think he can pluck the ball out of the air. His hands look fantastic. Him and Jordan, I think, are going to get on the same page relatively quick. And if that happens, I think he can be a big-time performer this upcoming season. So hopefully this is even higher when we’re going through Matthew Golden next year when we’re putting this list together. But for right now, I feel like number 18 feels right about right. Number 17 for me is Nate Hobbs. big free agent signing is somebody that’s going to step in. I mean, just just think of it this way. Where would Eric Stokes have been on this list? 45, 50, somewhere in that range. My lowest graded Packer last year on the team. Nobody worse for my grades than Eric Stokes. And I really liked what I saw from from Nate Hobbs. I think you’re getting a good, solid, sound performer at corner that I think has the ability to even be better than that. We saw that earlier in his career. Health has really derailed him. He’s got to stay healthy. He can’t be the, you know, you kind of released an injury-prone wide or corner in Jair and signed one in Nate Hobbs. Like, he’s missed a lot of time as well. So, health is going to be the most important, but if he’s out there, he’s going to be a pretty significant upgrade from Eric Stokes and a player that I think Packers fans are really going to enjoy watching and just be somebody that you’re going to have to work to complete passes on. That’s all you can ask for. You’re going to get catches from time to time. It’s a really tough division with wide receivers, but he’s going to make you work for every single completion. Number 16 is another one of these X factors where first round pick, flashes of brilliance, maybe brilliance is a little bit extreme, but flashes of some really impressive play, but just a mystery box down in and down out and game in and game out. And that’s Qu Walker. appropriately, right as I was basically willing and ready to give up on Quay Walker in 2024. The next few weeks he went out and I thought played his best football of his entire career. He will he looked awesome and he’s one of these players that came over from the Joe Barry era and is now playing in Jeff Athley’s defense. I’m sure that took a little bit of time to transition and it felt like it clicked and then those three weeks were awesome and then he went out injured for a while. It was fine when he got back, but you could tell there was a little bit of rust from the injury. And if that 3-week window was the real Kay Walker in Jeff Hafley’s defense, put him up in the top 11 on this list. Maybe not quite 10, but put him in the top 11. He has that type of ability. If it’s just same old quite ups and downs, don’t know what you’re going to get, inconsistencies, probably move him down handful of spots on this list. It’s a very important player for Green Bay, a big-time X factor and one the Packers really need to perform at that level that we now saw that he’s capable of. We finally got proof of concept. It was awesome, and I’m really, really hoping we see more of that this upcoming season. Number 15 is another one where pro probably quite frankly the the player that I had the hardest time placing him and and one other that we’re going to talk about here in just a moment as well. Romeo Dobs. I I have no idea where to place him on this list. I I’ll be totally honest. If you want to take any Umbrage with him being at number 15, be my guest. Um away. Uh I could put him 10 spots lower and be like, “Yeah, number 25 looks about right.” This is probably on the high side. I don’t know that I probably could have gone any higher with Romeo Dobs. I I don’t know if I’m just higher on Romeo or maybe just higher in general. No, I’m just kidding. I don’t know if I’m higher on Romeo Dobs uh than others are. I think he’s a good wide receiver. I think he’s going to have a very important role in this team. Don’t think there’s any chance that they trade him. And I think they need him to be that go-to player in some red zone and third down situations. I think you kind of have some unique specialists in whether it’s Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, Dantavian Wixs, guys that do Jaden Reed certain things. Well, I think Romeo Dobs has the ability to be that guy. When you need something, you can go to him. I’m not saying upper echelon wide receiver, anything like that. But I I just think he knows how to get open, good hands, same page as Jordan Love, veteran at this point. I think 2023 was just or sorry, 2024 was just a little bit bizarre for him. Go back to the playoffs. Dallas and San Francisco. He looked like he was ready to break out in a significant way. I don’t think that breakout’s ever going to happen for Romeo, but I think he’s a good receiver. I think he’s gonna have a very important year for Green Bay. That’s why I have him at number 15 on my list. Number 14 is a player that I loved over the first 10, 11 weeks of the season and then hit a rookie wall, but I think is going to be even better in year two is Evan Williams. I would be pretty stunned if we saw a secondyear regression from this guy. He is a hard worker, tape studier, cares about it a ton, puts the time, effort, and energy in. And I like I just don’t think he’s going to take his foot off the gas. I just don’t think that’s in his DNA. I talked about it on numerous occasions. His ability to come in in rookie mini camp and really show that he already knew portions of the playbook I was impressed by in 2024. and then immediately getting his name in the conversation at the starting safety job, playing really great football. Like I said, hit a little bit of a wall at the end. I I think I think he can be right around maybe not this year, but in the future, I think he can be right around a Pro Bowl caliber safety. I really really do. And I his pairing with Xavier McKini, I think has the ability to be really one of the strengths of this team. So very very high on Evan Williams and very much hoping that he continues his ascent because like I said I think that safety room can be special with Xavier McKenna and Evan Williams. Number 13, Aaron Banks. Really good sound offensive lineman that as I talked about in my kind of deep dive after I went back and watched every single snap of his that first seven weeks of 2024 in San Fran, I thought looked awesome. And if he can do that over the course of a season, the the ceiling is Green Bay’s best offensive lineman. If he would have played at that level that he did in the the first seven games over the entirety of last year, I don’t know that Green Bay even would have been able to get him. But if he would have, he would have graded out as the best offensive lineman for Green Bay this past year. The the onus is on him and Green Bay to get the best out of him. But the the downside here is right around Shawn Ryan and Shawn Ryan’s at number 19. And I think the upside is closer to Elton Jenkins, who we will talk about in just a little bit. So I think he can even get higher on this list, kind of breaking even in between the two. Uh Shawn Ryan and we’ll just say Elton Jenkins, who we’ll talk about momentarily. So to me, 13 feels about right. But there he’s going to have to pay off that fouryear 77 million deal. Prove that he’s worth it. I think he will. I really, really do. And I think he’s going to be a pretty interesting and key piece along that offensive line this upcoming season. Number 12, man, Devonte Wyatt. Where the heck do you want to put this guy? This guy barely played. 22 snaps per game that he played this past year. When he did, he looked pretty good. Thought is a pass rusher. He continued to show signs of improvement. He’s got some real juice, but he’s not an impact pass rusher. He’s not a great run defender, and he barely plays. 22 snaps per game. somebody you just guaranteed 15 million for 2026. It’s time. The time is now. Your first round pick. You were 24 when you came out. We need to see more from Devonte Wyatt this upcoming season. If you’re more frustrated with Devonte Wyatt and think that, hey, this has not gone great so far. I I get it. Number 12 probably a little bit aggressive on this list, but talent-wise, man, some of the things you see him do at his size, like it is a special ability. I just I need to see more consistency. I need to see him on the field more. I need to see him be better against the run. This is a first round pick that just got 15 million guaranteed for next year for 2026. Need to see more of it. Need to see better and more of Devonte Wyatt this upcoming season. Number 11 is the one that I talked about earlier as also being just the impossible to place on this list. Now, I’m ranking them from worst to best player. Even this might be aggressive. It really probably is. But I I don’t know that I’m putting Wyatt or Banks or Dobs or Quay or Hobbs over this player. Christian Watson I don’t know is that’s not great analytic, you know, analysis. It’s not great podcasting, right? I don’t know. He’s going to miss a good chunk of the season coming off a torn ACL and MCL. He can’t stay healthy, but man is he talented when he’s out on the field. And when you get good Christian Watson, it’s it’s it’s intoxicating. It gets like, “Oh my god, give me more of that. Just give I want all of that.” His ability even without the ball in his hands to take defenders with him to block on the outside and then the stuff that he can do with the ball in his hands and make big plays. you said, I think intoxicating is the best word for it, but it kind of is like that, not not to make another reference here, but it’s kind of like that drug where you’re like, I want more of it, but it’s at the same time, it kind of always leaves you wanting more, just kind of disappointing you in the end. And to me, that is where we’re at with Christian Watson. And now you’re going to miss him for probably at least half of the season. I don’t know, maybe maybe gets back a little bit sooner. ultra talented, lot lot of injuries, not always consistent. Where you want to put him on this list is a choose your own adventure. You could put Bill Huber. I know had him at number 34 on the list. I don’t even have an argument. Like, that’s fine. I totally get that. Now, it’s most important players for Bill’s list for 2025, which when you’re going to miss half the season, the importance of course just goes way down inherently. But regardless of what criteria you’re using, if you want to put him 20 spots lower on this list, I would certainly understand that conversation. I think from a pure talent standpoint and what he can bring to the team when he’s healthy, I think he’s higher on the list. But either way, very difficult player to place one way or the other. Number 10 through number one, I start getting a lot more conviction with. I I feel like I feel very good about where the the rest of the list lies. Number 10, Elton Jenkins. got to get this whole contract situation figured out, but he’s a really good offensive lineman. He can play multiple spots. I’m super excited about his transition to center. He’s going to be a massive upgrade for for Josh Meyers and somebody that I think is still going to play at a very high level even at this stage of his career. He’s fought through some injuries. Right now, he’s fighting through some contract negotiation stuff. Just get him out there, get him playing center. It’s going to be a huge upgrade, maybe the biggest upgrade on the entire team this year going from Josh Meyers to Elton Jenkins. Number nine, I know he had a down year last year. We know injuries definitely played a part, but Kenny Clark is still a really good football player, a really important player for this team and one that I definitely expect to bounce back. We’ve never seen Kenny have a year like last year where just never felt like he had the juice, never looked fully healthy, never quite looked like himself. And assuming he’s healthy for this upcoming season, I don’t ever think we’re going to get prime Kenny Clark again. But I think we’re going to get a much better player than we saw from the 2024 version. My guess is the 2024 Kenny Clark will be the worst Kenny Clark that we see at any stage of his career. I really truly believe that and I think it’s going to be a much better Kenny Clark in 2025. Which is why I think number nine is right. Not only for his talent and his upside, but expecting to bounce back. Even bad Kenny Clark wasn’t bad last year. He was just average, fine, good. We just never seen that from Kenny. He’s always been a a solid step or two above that. And hopefully he can get back into form this upcoming season. Number eight’s another one of these wide receivers of just where do you place them on the list? I think the world of Jaden Reed. I think he’s an absolute stud. I think Green Bay did him a disservice more of not specifically trying to get the ball in his hands in the second half of last season. Did he have some drops? Absolutely. Did he at times need to do a little bit better job of getting open? Sure. But this is too talented of a player to have so few touches in the second half of the season, especially after the first year and a half that he had in the NFL. I don’t think there’s any way that Jaden Reed or the Packers allows that to have to happen again. think he’s going to be much healthier. Know he hit a little bit of an injury situation at the end of last year. And if that’s the case, there’s no reason for me to believe that we don’t see at at minimum the Jane Reed that we saw through the first year and a half of his career. And I think it could even be a step ahead of that. So still extremely high on Jane Reed and expect him to have a even better season than he’s had in either of his first two years. I was still pretty high on what he did the past two years from a grading standpoint. So, think um think the world of Jaden Reed and think that the the best years of his career are still very much ahead of him. Number seven, very controversial player, Rashawn Garry. Listen, I had him as my third highest graded defender this past year. Just so happens he’s going to be the third defender on this list. PF had him as their third highest graded defender for players that actually played uh on their list this past year. He’s not the number one guy. He’s not the alpha. He’s not the stud. He’s not in that top 10 of pass rushers in the NFL. He’s not going to get you 18 sacks. He’s not going to be a game wrecker consistently. I get all those things. Still a really good player that has been solid to better than solid. He’s been a really good player for Green Bay and somebody that consistently has been difference makers probably too far, but just a a needed piece along that defensive line. No question about it. still had I think like 14 more pressures than anyone else on the team this past season and is somebody that you’re going to need and I I I I think Rashan needs to play better. There’s no question about that. I think he can play better. Just a couple years ago he had 80 some pressures. I think it was preacl but 80ome pressures. He had 40ome this past year. I need to I need to get him in that high 60s low 70s at least this upcoming season. That should be the expectation for Rashan Garry. at minimum still a very good player and one that Green Bay is very ha happy to have on this team. Number six is Tucker Craft. The best tight end that Packers have had since prime Michael Finley run after the catch ability, blocking ability. I’ll just say this. I think the thing that Tucker’s working on in year three is his separation and route running ability. If he gets that, look the hell out. It’s over. He’s just too talented. He’s going to run through you. He’s fast. He has the intensity of, you know, uh, like seven tight ends and he is just scratching the surface of his potential. He’s gotten better every single step of the way. There’s no signs of slowing down. He wants it bad. He’s hungry for it. And I would be pretty stunned if we didn’t even see an upgrade from where Tucker Craft was in 2024. And he was pretty damn good in 2024. I I cannot wait for upcoming season for Tucker Craft. I think it’s going to be something very special to watch. Speaking of which, another one that I think is going to be very special to watch for the remainder of his career is Edin Cooper. I’ve said it. I think he can be the best linebacker in football. Probably not in 2025, but 2026, sure. And I thought there were flashes of it already as a rookie. Already there are draft picks this upcoming year that are being talked about in the top 10, 15 of the draft at linebacker. Guess what the comp is, man? He looks like Edan Cooper out there. There’s He’s already getting that level of love and respect, rightfully so. There’s nothing else to say. He needs to be a little bit more assignment. Sure, do things a little bit more the right way. He’s a freaky dude that you can take seven wrong steps and still somehow be right because he’s just that level of freaky. But if he if he plays it the right way and and does it a little bit more assignment, sure, it’s just game over. He’s just he’s going to be the best linebacker in football. And I’m not there’s no guarantee that he gets to that right. He’s gonna have to take that step, have to be a little bit better in the playbook, a little bit better with his tape study and those sort of things. But man, if he gets there, the the talent is tanalyzing and I really truly really truly believe he can be the best linebacker in the entire NFL. Number four, Jordan Love. you know, he is he is chalk full of upside potential and already with a baseline that’s just a really solid really good quarterback. I don’t think we’ve even scratched the surface of what Jordan can potentially be. Maybe a little bit at the end of 2023. I think he can still be a solid step better than that. But this is the year. The time is now. Year six, year three as a starter. And I think, as I’ve said multiple times this off season, this is the tone setter for Jordan Love moving forward. Whatever he is in 2025, there’ll be version slightly above or below that for the rest of his career. But I think this sort of etches it in who he is as a quarterback. Could that be top five? Yes. Could that be number 18? Sure. But I think the difference there is massively important. We’re about to find out a ton about him. I do think the injuries really hurt him in 2024. Knock on wood, hopefully he stays healthy in 2025 and I think we’re about to see the world really catch on to exactly who Jordan Love is as an NFL quarterback. Number three, Josh Jacobs. Unbelievable year. The offense went through him. He was able to put the team on his back at times. That run that he had against Philly just to try to keep the his team in the game. The run that he had against Jacksonville that said, “We’re not losing this game.” And what a fun season it was from him. I I think completely even crushed my expectations for him this past year. Was so much better than he was in 2023 with the Raiders. Was closer to his 2022 season where he was just fantastic. And I think this offense is even going to be better with Jacobs in 2025 because I think they know how to utilize him more. And hopefully they have more counters and play action fakes and um bootlegs to utilize and just get a little bit more cohesiveness and cohesion within the offense than what we saw this past year. But Jacobs did everything he was supposed to. He is a bruiser, a a bulldog, and he is going to be still a player that I think leads this team in 2025. Number two is Zack Tom. I know people are going to say, “You just said he was over it. just said he’s not like the top four, five offensive tackle. He’s not that first or second team all pro. I still think he’s second best player on Green Bay’s team. He’s the most consistent day in and day out. You know exactly what you’re going to get. Tons of versatility. He’s just an He’s just a fantastic player. So, I I love Zack Tom. I think he can even continue to grow and get better. I think he’s the the ace of that offensive line. I always talk about a fiveman offensive line, like a fiveman rotation in baseball. You need your ace. You need your top tier number two, an upand cominging guy, then you can get away with like two solid starters after that. Zack Tom is this offensive line’s ace, and I expect him to get a massive contract because of that in the next year or so. And last but not least, number one, Xavier McKenna. Stud, upside leader, perfect fit for Jeff Affle’s defense. Unbelievable backend player. Changes the way that teams play. You can’t throw his in his direction. playmaker with the interceptions, every superlative under the sun as advertised, still in the prime of his career. What an unbelievable signing by Brian Gutin. What an idiotic franchise in the New York Giants. Thank you for being dumb. Thank you Green Bay for being smart and picking him up. Love having him on the back end of the defense. It completely changed what Jeff Hafley was able to do. It completely made this a top 10 defense. It doesn’t happen without Xavier McKini. He’s a stud. He’s an alpha. He’s an allp pro and I still think he’s getting better. I’m not gonna go from 90 to one. You can go back and listen from 90 to to uh 31 at the beginning of this episode if you want that. But our top 30 Green Bay Packers, number 30, Marshon Lloyd, followed by Carl Brooks, LVN, Javon Bullard, Malik Willis, Jordan Morgan, Carrington Valentine, Dantavian Wixs, Brandon McManis, Keshan Nixon, Rasheed Walker, Shawn Ryan, Matthew Golden, Nate Hobbs, Quay Walker. At 15, Romeo Dobs, followed by Evan Williams, Aaron Banks, Devonte Wyatt, Christian Watson, Elton Jenkins, Kenny Clark, Jaden Reed, Rashawn Garry, Tucker Craft, Edin Cooper at five, Jordan Love at four, Josh Jacobs at three, Zack Tom at two, and Xavier McKini at number one. That’s going to do it for me today. Thank you so much for joining me for this entire series. Shout out to our all pro hall of fame members. 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